The Inevitability of Nuclear War and Subsequent Nuclear Winter

“So Far We Have Survived Nuclear Armageddon By Luck” Paul Craig Roberts

“The long lucky streak can’t go on forever. President Reagan understood this and focused on ending the Cold War. This achievement has been overturned by the evil neocons operating through the last three US presidents.”  click here for additional P.C.R. sourced article Ticking Closer to Nuclear Midnight.


 “In a nuclear war, immense nuclear firestorms in burning cities would create millions of tons of thick, black, radioactive smoke. This smoke would rise above cloud level and quickly surround and engulf the entire Earth. The smoke would form a stratospheric smoke layer that would block sunlight from reaching the surface of Earth for a period of about ten years.  Heated smoke in the stratosphere would cause massive destruction of the protective ozone layer. Huge amounts of harmful Ultraviolet light would penetrate the smoke and reach the surface of the Earth.Warming sunlight would be blocked by the smoke layer and cause the Earth to rapidly cool. In a matter of days, Ice Age weather conditions would descend upon all peoples and nations.”

Carl Sagan on the possibility of a nuclear winter


I believe that this will be how they slow down our runaway climate change catastrophe.  The concept of a nuclear orchestrated global dimming and hence cooling is laid out below:  Nuclear War Threatens Human Existence.

I'm an anti-imperialist, environmental activist and blue ocean sailor, who is passionate about the earth and all it's inhabitants without favour. Brace for imminent impact as we bare witness to the non-linear unraveling of the biosphere and habitability disappearing for most if not all complex life on the only habitable planet we know of. To quote President Niinistö in North Russia: ‘If We Lose the Arctic, We Lose the World’. Folks we have lost the Arctic.

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82 comments on “The Inevitability of Nuclear War and Subsequent Nuclear Winter
  1. Kevin Hester says:

    The planet is overheating very quickly. Soon our ‘owners’ will cool the planet with an orchestrated nuclear winter.


  2. So how’s that gonna work out, eh Kevin? Like everything our species thinks it can pull off, this ridiculously stupid idea will ‘kill’ two birds with one stone maybe? Irradiate the Northern Hemisphere at least since it’ll probably be the US using the cute ‘preemptive’ on Russia and/or China, and Israel will do the same with Iran or anybody else that wants to argue with their 200-300 weapons.

    As for India and Pakistan, they have gotten at least as close as any country in the world to using them on one another in the last 70 years, and with Covid ripping through the population of India and cancelling their economic viability (I’ve read nothing about Pakistan lately for some reason), Kashmir is still their trigger point and nothing I’ve read has said that has changed. Modi is a neoliberal violent rightwinger, anybody want to places bets on his stability of mind?

    And with what I read a year ago about Trump shuffling ‘how-to’ documents to the Saudis who were the architects of the 9/11/01 New York attack, I would assume they are probably feverishly trying to build their own nuclear weapons as I type this. North Korea can hit the giant US Pacific aircraft carrier Hawai’i and at the same time blow the shit out of Japan the other US Pacific aircraft carrier…and Koreans still hold a VERY big deep grudge at the Japanese for what they did in WWII.

    If you don’t have functional nuclear weapons you can’t play in the big boy’s game, right?

    So maybe it is time to read Nevil Shute’s little book On The Beach again? Been a long time but it’s still on the shelf. I did pick up the movie Hollywood made of it years ago but that did not have the emotional impact that the book had but that was probably because it was written before the science figured out what Nuclear Winter was. The planetary ecosystem will die much quicker than the movies bright sunshine! Muffled in a cloud of smoke, ash, and debris than the movie never portrayed or the book thought of. I still have a vhs copy of that, though, on the movie shelves.

    As darkness descends we will not be going to Disneyland.

    Good but chilling article you posted. The term used is ‘bleak’ and you don’t hear that from the corporate neoliberal mainstream media. Wouldn’t want to cause depression in the ‘consumers’ so badly that they quit buying shit they don’t need, right? Wouldn’t want that to happen!

    But 13,500 nuclear weapons poised to fly? I was talking with my old surf partner DP the other night. He’s lived on Windward Side of that US Hawai’ian aircraft carrier going on 30 years now, and his younger brother became a Captain of a US nuclear submarine of which the brother is so proud of. Trident subs have what, 18 nuclear-tipped missiles each with 6-8 independently targeted warheads of roughly 300-450kt each? Or is it 24? I forget. I read somewhere that all it will take to end this insane civilization is 100 going off at the same time across the Northern Hemisphere to completely smoke & dust cloud blot out the sun for years.

    That one sub of his retired Captain brother, using the lower metric of 18 missiles with 6 warheads each, comes out to 108. And we know that these are not the little atomic bomb firecrackers of Hiroshima and Nagasaki at 12 & 15kt; these are thermonuclear hydrogen bombs that scared the crap out of Albert Einstein so badly he wrote a letter to the president of the US asking him to stop it, dismantle it all.

    But just one errant rightwinger Fascist neoliberal like my old friend’s macho brother and POOF, we won’t be here any more. Talk about balanced on a razorblade…

    Our species is insane, or at least the ones who control it most certainly are. But isn’t denial a form of insanity?

    Maybe I won’t re-read On The Beach. But I did finish Edward Snowden’s Permanent Record this last weekend. Oh my, the same people and mindsets of madness are in power everywhere, and they are sociopaths and psychopaths and megalomania through and through. Best do something fun today instead…


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  3. And remember, the US can’t AFFORD universal health care, or clean water, or repairs to fix the falling down bridges. Too broke to house and educate poor children or feed them enough that they don’t go to bed in their cardboard boxes hungry. Too broke except somehow Biden’s latest ‘budget’ for the Federal cops (DEA, ATF, FBI, etc etc) is the same as the entire Russian military budget! But there’s no money for help to people addicted to harmful substances that are destroying them but the politicians certainly find huge lumps of cash for prisons to put them in…

    But there is plenty of money for Obama’s, then Trump’s, now Biden’s nuclear war machine to build ‘better’ weapons in order to upgrade this country’s ‘protective blanket’ having more ‘usable’ bombs that can be stuffed into a suitcase? How does that work again?

    There is always plenty of money to give trillions to the wealthy as covid ravages the species. There is plenty of money to fund the overthrow of countries that elect governments that don’t do what the US says. There’s plenty of money to not tax the richest sociopaths in the nation who own all the corporations that are destroying it but not enough to get our species off this planet and out to where the resources are that could keep it from going extinct, and not enough money to build factories in orbit so we could stop spewing toxics on ourselves.

    So I guess we will just keep fighting over the dwindling resources until gone and suffocating in our own poisons. Or, of course, tossing a few hundred thermo-nuclear hydrogen bombs to just turn it all off. Or maybe we won’t and the planet will go into unstoppable greenhouse and turn into Venus?

    What a bummer no matter how one looks at it.

    As for the 2nd youtube link, Sagan was a pretty smart cookie. Remember the movie ‘Contact’ that was dedicated ‘To Carl’? Glad he’s not alive to see all this…


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  4. I found a great photo book of Mt. St. Helens in a box donated to the 2nd hand I was sorting through. Impressive geo-engineering!

    As for this thread, I don’t know if I posted this a few years ago but it certainly hasn’t gone down any since. Which country is the most likely to instigate it? Well, why spend all this money if you don’t get to use the damned weapons, eh?

    The Pentagon Can’t Account for $21 Trillion (That’s Not a Typo)

    Twenty-one trillion dollars.

    The Pentagon’s own numbers show that it can’t account for $21 trillion. Yes, I mean trillion with a “T.” And this could change everything.

    But I’ll get back to that in a moment.

    There are certain things the human mind is not meant to do. Our complex brains cannot view the world in infrared, cannot spell words backward during orgasm and cannot really grasp numbers over a few thousand. A few thousand, we can feel and conceptualize. We’ve all been in stadiums with several thousand people. We have an idea of what that looks like (and how sticky the floor gets).

    But when we get into the millions, we lose it. It becomes a fog of nonsense. Visualizing it feels like trying to hug a memory. We may know what $1 million can buy (and we may want that thing), but you probably don’t know how tall a stack of a million $1 bills is. You probably don’t know how long it takes a minimum-wage employee to make $1 million.

    That’s why trying to understand—truly understand—that the Pentagon spent 21 trillion



  5. Maybe it’ll be the landlocked US aircraft carrier puppet state Israel that starts off a general war that goes nuclear since they’ve got 300 or so ready to use according to their own ex-top scientist who blew the whistle on them (he got out of prison a while back but is not allowed to leave the country). 300 nuclear bombs-and I’m assuming they are thermo-nuclear hydrogen bombs not little firecrackers like what the US dropped on Hiroshima & Nagasaki, and that would pretty much cover the entire Northern Hemisphere in a dense cloud of dust and smoke for probably many years from what the current literature on the estimated long-term after-effects I’ve read of just 100 being used at the same time. But I’m still just guessing as we all are, eh? India & Pakistan are still teetering on the edge of another war…

    ‘We Need to Take Military Action’: Israeli Defense Minister Threatens War With Iran

    Denying responsibility for a deadly drone strike in the Arabian Sea, the Iranian Foreign Ministry warned that “any anti-Iran adventurism will receive an immediate and decisive response.”



  6. Kevin Hester says:

    Clearly the military industrial complex are hell bent on weaponizing space, there is billions in it for them.”
    One of the problems China and Russia have is they know that the US and Nato can’t be trusted treaty or not.
    Without the internet and the Global Positioning System for navigation this civilisation would crumble in days.
    A Space War would be a major extinction event for the planet.


    • Don’t you just love the reality that the German Nazi scientists invented the way the US space war was originally set up? And now we’ve got a passel of our own Fascists in control. Monkey see monkey do I guess.

      Almost nobody over the years that I mentioned Operation Paperclip to knew what the hell I was talking about. And when I explained most of them called me a liar/conspiracy theorist because the US gov would never bring in Nazis… Nazi spymasters set up the CIA, too, so no surprise how those murderers have turned out either. Of course all government employees monsters and sociopaths and psychopaths and serial killers

      I wonder if the US population has a breaking point when life is so poverty-stricken from the ever-growing war budget that they rebel? Perhaps not, pretty ignorant group with little or no knowledge of history when taken as a whole. But if they do, the heavily war weapon militarized police will have no problem protecting the wealthy status quo and its profit no doubt. I think they’d welcome it as cops are generally authoritarian Fascist-leaning anyway.

      Taliban Cops vs American Cops, Who’s Worse?

      We can’t be the only species in this little galaxy to have committed planetary suicide. Probably lots of dead planets out there covered in ruins. Sure are a lot of ruins on this planet of dead civilizations to extrapolate from, ya know,?


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    • I’m about…40 air miles from the center of Spokane at a higher elevation than the city in the flats on the opposite (west-facing) side of the 5,000 foot ridgeline that’s between us.

      Oh goody, I might survive the initial blast(s). Or not. Fairchild AFB is west of Spokane, and it is a railroad hub. How unlucky can one get? To live after a nuclear war or, for a time, during the effects of nuclear winter. I’d rather be directly under it like the girl on the bench.

      There’s a book called One Second After (fiction since it hasn’t happened) by a History Prof named Forstchen who specializes in military history and technology about how quickly the US would break down after an EMP. His goal of the book was for billions to be spent on ‘hardening’ military & grids etc etc which of course was never undertaken on a grand scale though I’ve read somewhere that the military has done some of that.

      Rather grim reading, as this video was also.

      Here’s a link about Biden and what a ‘progressive’ he is with his 2022 Pentagon budget; bigger than Trump’s!

      The Unconscionable Hypocrisy of the Federal Spending Debate
      Why is it controversial to spend on social programs but not the Pentagon? Or to subsidize the poor but not the rich?

      original site: OtherWords

      There’s no way to stop these, you know, the real DOOMERS!


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  7. I finally had a chance to watch the British movie ‘Threads’ the other night. I’ve known about it for decades but it wasn’t available in US vhs formats, and being on dial-up since the 1990s I couldn’t watch it online. With DSL I finally could.

    That movie put reality of nuclear war right into your face, into the bottom of your belly, far beyond what the US ‘The Day After’ movie that came out at the same time did in the early 1980s of madman Reagan and Thatcher’s reign of neoliberal terror.

    For those that have never seen it:


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    • Funny that you post this as I found it on youtube a few weeks ago and watched it. It is so much different to read the words and decades later get to hear all the voices of those climate scientists. The movie ‘Contact’ was dedicated ‘To Carl.’

      I cracked up when he said Greenhouse Effect is NOT how a greenhouse works. And ‘safe’ fission plants which are “IN PRINCIPLE’ possible-that we know now there really aren’t any such thing especially with the oceans rising on coastline plants and drought draining rivers on inland plants both being a problem for keep the damned things cooling and those over-full cooling ponds of spent rods nobody knows what to do with. Not even mention the utter stupidity of corporate owners that built the damned things to only increase profits…

      And this was 1985 when I was still happily married and living above 1,000 meters on Palomar Mt., right across from the Observatory in N/E San Diego County.

      My, hasn’t the world outlook changed and not for the better…

      Here’s a good take on the US belief system: the Pentagod!

      The American Abyss of Weapons and Warming


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  8. Luck is sure feeling a bit shaky at this point. Biden is threatening Russia with nuclear war since he is willing to protect the Coup neofuckingNazis that Hillary Clinton’s bitch Victorian Nuland funded with $5bil US?

    The political insanity continues unabated in this country:

    Nuclear War Over Ukraine?
    Bankrupt America is in no position to fight for Ukraine.

    And there isn’t a damned thing people in this country can do about it. We are utterly powerless to change or influence the Rulers in any way. Voting doesn’t work, only money and power does, and the majority of US citizens don’t have either.

    Funny that the minority power GOP and majority power DEM think alike don’t you think?


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  9. Had an old ’80s movie pop up in the youtube feed last night that I haven’t seen since those awful Reagan years, War Games. What the hell, I watched it since I hazily remember it as an ant-nuclear war film.

    The only way to win is to not play. So says the AI computer. How about a nice game of chess? Yeah, well…

    40 years later the wealthy and powerful still don’t get it, and the military is still being operated by clones of Dr. Stranglove who somehow never got the message, either. That our species hasn’t yet lit off planet-wide use is actually kind of surprising to be honest. Though the use of Depleted Uranium certainly has spread massive radioactive contamination across broad swipes of the planet since then which, if one thinks about it, IS nuclear war on a smaller scale. Clinton using it during his bombing on parts of Yugoslavia, HWbush in the first invasion of Iraq and Wbush’s 2nd invasion that spread that crap with the wind. And Chernobyl and what continues to be even a worse disaster in Japan that can’t be stopped. I read somewhere that there is fallout from all the nuclear bomb tests that is still drifting down from high orbit…

    What really struck me as strange and rather disturbing are so many of the comments posted from people who were kids or teens that saw the movie when it came out all talking about how nice movies were back then, how the world was such a much gentler place. WTF? I started getting upset and quit reading them. The ignorance shown has only gotten worse and these are the teens that are the mid-late 40 to 50 year old generals and corporate heads now….and they thought the movie was pleasant step back to better days? Did they not see Threads or The Day After and so many pleas for sanity movies that were coming out back then including this one?

    This fits in here:

    The Pentagon and CIA Have Shaped Thousands of Hollywood Movies into Super Effective Propaganda


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  10. Kevin Hester says:

    Via Sam Carana
    The Cretaceous-Paleocene boundary (~66 million years-ago) asteroid impact, described in 1980 by Alvarez et al., caused enough dust and debris to cloud large parts of planet and result in the mass extinction of some 80% of all species of animals.
    When Turco et al. (1983) and Carl Sagan (1983) warned the world about the climatic effects of a nuclear war, they pointed out that the amount of carbon stored in a large city was sufficient to release enough aerosols (smoke, soot and dust) to block sunlight over large regions, leading to a widespread failure of crops and thereby extensive starvation.
    Current nuclear arsenals by the United States and Russia could inject 150 Teragram (Tg) (10⁹ kilogram) of soot from fires ignited by nuclear explosions into the upper troposphere and lower stratosphere (Coupe et al., 2019), lasting for a period of 10 years or longer, followed by a period of intense radioactive radiation over large areas. Even a “limited” nuclear war, such as between India and Pakistan, would release enough aerosols to affect large regions, killing millions or billions through starvation. As stated by Robock et al., 2007): “The casualties from the direct effects of blast, radioactivity, and fires resulting from the massive use of nuclear weapons by the superpowers would be so catastrophic … the ensuing nuclear winter would produce famine for billions of people far from the target zones”.
    By 2021, with a global arsenal of ~13.000 nuclear warheads, 90 percent of which held by Russia and the US, regional conflicts such as in the Ukraine and Taiwan threaten to spill world-wide.


  11. sealintheselkirks says:

    With the USA’s never-ending desperate behavior to rule the world like a junkie reaching for a needle full of heroin anywhere they can…war IS inevitable and this country will start it but put the blame elsewhere. At least for the short time before all electronics are fried by EMP and the cities turn into thermonuclear fireballs. The US breaks every promise it ever makes, breaks every treaty it ever signs, installs madmen despot dictators around the world, and nearly everything that comes out cannot be believed; the idiot citizens of this country call it the greatest country in the world.

    One, just 1, US Trident submarine carrying 18 to 24 MIRVs of 6-8 independently targeted weapons will destroy life on this planet. The lesser number means 108 giant holes in the planet surface blowing massive amounts of dust, smoke, and debris into the upper atmosphere will kill us all. If everybody lets loose as many as they can before they are obliterated… my old partner’s younger brother was a captain of one of these death machines until retirement and he is proud of his ‘commitment’ to ‘freedom’ still…and considers his older brother’s 30 years working with disabled preschool & toddlers to have been a waste of time when he could have “done something” with his life. The insanity is too deeply embedded in here and it certainly isn’t going to change in the short time it needs to.

    Trump or Biden or HIllary or McCain or Wbush or Kerry or Romney or whoever the hell is the figurehead …does it matter which mad face is actually president? They’re all ruled by they same tiny group of Oligarchs who are psychopaths and stark raving mad.
    The one stark thought is that those living monsters (and the generals and politicians) will probably outlive the majority of the species in their secret hideouts. Do they realize what they will face if they ever come out in ten or twenty years of hiding underground?

    A quicker death is preferable but they’ll deserve a slow one and I truly hope it is worse than I can ever imagine.

    Another take on what should have been WWIII and it should have been title US roulette:

    Ready for Another Game of Russian Roulette?

    There won’t be anybody left to remember who started WWIII after the last bunker empties out of the privileged when the last of the stored food is gone. But there will be satellites still floating around the planet I’d imagine. At least for a while…



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Kevin Hester is currently living on Rakino Island, a small island in the Hauraki Gulf near Auckland, New Zealand, monitoring the unravelling of the biosphere and volunteering at the Rakino Island Nursery is currently developing a proposal to create a marine reserve near by. The Island has no grid tied electricity or reticulated water.  I catch my own water from the roof and generate my electricity from the ample solar radiation on the island.

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