“Oil giants Shell and BP are planning for global temperatures to rise as much as 5°C by the middle of the century. The level is more than double the upper limit committed to by most countries in the world under the Paris Climate Agreement, which both companies publicly support.”
I believe a temperature increase of 5C and more will occur much, much sooner than mid-century. This is clearly an extinction event for most if not all complex life on planet earth.
In my May 2015 Oral Submission to the N.Z. Ministry of Environment, I pointed out that both the IEA and Shell Petroleum admit that close to 5C is baked in but none of the large NGO’s nor the global Green Party’s nor their networks are prepared to face the reality of the crisis. I received zero feedback from the Ministry minions but a standing ovation from the concerned members of the public at the hearing process. My oral presentation is embedded in the above hyperlink:
According to the conservative blogger Joe Romm at Think Progress the planet may have warmed 5C in 13 years once before;
“PETM shocker: When CO2 Levels Doubled 55 Million Years Ago, Earth May Have Warmed 9F In 13 Years
I have written to both David Parker, Environment Minister and James Shaw co-leader of the Green Party of Aotearoa in the new Labour led coalition government in New Zealand challenging them both to face up to the reality of the situation, I have yet to receive any reply. My emails are copied below, feel free to email them yourself( both of their emails are embedded in the two links directly above) and ask why they are holding back;
Kia ora David,
I have had a long email dialogue with James Shaw M.P. over his failure to address the climate crisis in a meaningful way.
Below is my latest email to him about Shell and BP admitting that 5C is baked in by the middle of the century. I’m sure you’re aware that 5C is an extinction event for most if not all complex life on the planet. When we exit stage left we will see 450 nuclear melt downs and over 1200 spent fuel pool fires which will be infinitely worse.
When are we going to start telling the truth about the severity of the climate crisis?
Surely the youth deserve the truth?
Best
Kevin Hester
Rakino Island
Hauraki Gulf
“Hi James,
Just in case you missed it; “Oil giants Shell and BP are planning for global temperatures to rise as much as 5°C by the middle of the century. The level is more than double the upper limit committed to by most countries in the world under the Paris Climate Agreement, which both companies ( and yourself) publicly support. FYI I believe it will happen much sooner.
What will it take for the Greens and the new government to come clean on the crisis?”
Best
Kevin Hester
Rakino Island
Hauraki Gulf
The planet and all species inhabiting it face an existential crisis and it seems that almost none of us have the courage to face what is now a “Fait Accompli.” What I find even more repulsive is the burden being cast on our youth to fix the un-fixable dilemma we have bequeathed them.
I see young people in my family and circle of friends continuing to have children. I firmly believe many children would be spared the impending horror if their young parents were aware of the armageddon bearing down on them. To quote David Attenborough “Population matters“
I took this photo whilst standing on the crater edge at Tanna Island in Vanuatu. From this point you can see down into the volcano crater, a boiling cauldron of molten lava, somewhat like what our entire planet is soon to look like;
Our youth are lied to from birth. Let’s not be the last generation, at the edge of extinction, lying to the youth.
It is only a matter of time before the living will envy the dead. Let’s start the grieving process while the situation is still relatively stable.
I’m editing this post on 11/12/2021;
The reality is that 10C is baked in; We’re actually heading for a 10C global mean temperature increase in the coming decade or two. Probably much sooner.
I'm an anti-imperialist, environmental activist and blue ocean sailor, who is passionate about the earth and all it's inhabitants without favour. Brace for imminent impact as we bare witness to the non-linear unraveling of the biosphere and habitability disappearing for most if not all complex life on the only habitable planet we know of. To quote President Niinistö in North Russia: ‘If We Lose the Arctic, We Lose the World’. Folks we have lost the Arctic.
Kevin Hester 
As Hambone Littletail says: We are so fucked!
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Yes definitely. I’m going to use the acronym WASF! henceforth.
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I can only think that David Parker and James Shaw are in denial, perhaps this explains the lack of replies.
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Absolute cowardice imho. The evidence is now clear and they are putting the party first. They are now part of the problem, to date, no reply from either of them.
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I’ve tried to start a conversation with friends and family-to my regret. I watched a recent video on The Real News, where Jennifer Francis was interviewed, she admits at the end that several degrees are baked in, avoiding the Mann type of hopium. It would be interesting to know Shaws’ honest, personal opinions. As you say, maybe he doesn’t have the courage of his convictions (if I’m expressing it correctly?).
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It takes a certain type of courage to cross this rubicon and few seem to have it.My desire is to stop the guilt tripping of our youth about them having to fix this unfixable clusterfuck that we have bequeathed them.
We do have to remember that Shaw used to be a finance executive who did consulting work for Coca Cola and Shell Petroleum, I suggest he has been corrupted.
I’ve sent this link to him at Parliament so no doubt he will see these comments. I look forward to his response!
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Personally I don’t expect anything of politicians nor do judge them too harshly. They have to get elected and in NZ, only a three year term.
The problem is PEOPLE! And this system. Hambone captured it beautifully in his latest “depressed luddite whine”.
And you still only have to read the comments after any MSM climate change report, to know how many are still unrepentantly clueless.
Still, points for trying Kevin.
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The late, great Michael C Ruppert used to say, “Until you change the way money works you change nothing”, that has always been the predicament.
We never over threw capitalism and now as we sink into the abyss no one can face what we have done to the living planet.
The reality is we have been kicking the can down the road for a couple of centuries and now we are over the cliff everyone feints surprise.
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I agree with 44 south (name reminds me of 45 South-goddamn awful whiskey that it was) most (99.9%) people don’t care, don’t want to know. Guys like you are preaching to the choir. Hedges talks about electronic hallucinations.
It’s a pity Mike’s gone, his wisdom is sorely needed. You and he are absolutely right.The neo-liberal capitalist fantasy of infinite growth on a finite planet, has destroyed us.
Good post by the way, the link to PETM shocker goes elsewhere though (to the Independent). I’d be interested to know where to go, as going in circles when I google it.
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Thx Art for pointing out the wrong link had been embedded regarding the PETM, that has now been edited and rectified.
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This bombshell ( pardon the pun) from the Guardian in 2004;
“Now the Pentagon tells Bush: climate change will destroy us”.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2004/feb/22/usnews.theobserver
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Seems to be playing out at this very moment in the northern hemisphere! Interesting how the Pentagon, has always accepted climate change.
https://www.opendemocracy.net/transformation/mark-kernan/Myth-and-dystopia-in-the-Anthropocene
“In the autumn of 1913, Carl Jung dreamt of a monstrous flood of yellow waves cascading down from the North Sea through north-west Europe and down onto the Alps. Later in his apocalyptic dream-vision the swirling yellow seas turned blood red amidst “the floating rubble of civilisation, and the drowned bodies of uncounted thousands.”
Nine months later Jung had a similarly dramatic dream, but this time with a different emphasis: “An Arctic cold wave descended and froze the land to ice…The whole of Lorraine and its canals frozen and the entire region totally deserted by human beings.” “
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I am in the US and about two years ago there was a huge announcement on every news channel it was made into such a media circus (for of course maybe five minutes then it was long forgotten) . It was secretary of state John Kerry standing next to some minister (maybe the environmental minister) of France and they made an announcement about only having a short time to avert climate chaos. The funny thing was when the minister used the term “climate chaos” Kerry made this face and looked up to the sky. Lots of people online posted about that face betraying what was really ahead for us. Now, two years later. I have yet to see anyone speak of this clinic chaos when obviously it’s happening all around us.
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[…] Dr Glikson and myself discussed the consequences of a 4C + world and I mentioned the expose’ published by The Independent on 27th of October 2017, covered previously on this blog, where the Oil Giants Shell and B.P. admit that a 5C increase is ‘baked in’ before mid century: Oil Giants admit to a 5C Temperature Increase being baked in but no one else will. […]
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I stopped looking on the net for awhile regarding Cimate Change / Biosphere Collapse because the outlook for the future was affecting my mental health; with my mother passing away 2 months ago …I needed cheering up.
However we ignore this and it maybe too late anyhow.
I try too make each day count.
I have more solar electric cells than I need to give something back…
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So in this series of press releases between Shell and the U.N. they pretend that 2C is acheivable but when Shell communicates with BP they admit that 5C is baked in before 2050.
“Shell’s scenario would see global CO2 emissions reach “net zero” by 2070”
Of course they will agree to net zero emissions by 2070, industrial civilisation and by default us sapiens will be long gone before then.
https://www.desmog.co.uk/2018/04/04/un-accused-greenwashing-after-it-promoted-shell-
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In 1998, Shell Predicted It Would Be Sued Over Climate Crisis Someday
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/shell-oil-climate-change-risks_us_5ac628d9e4b09ef3b24440d5?ncid=engmodushpmg00000003
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“Thus, by 1968, American oil held in its hands yet another notice of its products’ world-altering side effects, one affirming that global warming was not just cause for research and concern, but a reality needing corrective action: “Past and present studies of CO2 are detailed,” the Stanford Research Institute advised. “What is lacking, however, is […] work toward systems in which CO2 emissions would be brought under control.”
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2018/jan/01/on-its-hundredth-birthday-in-1959-edward-teller-warned-the-oil-industry-about-global-warming
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They have kown for a very long time that they are frying the biosphere and nothing was done.
Pitchforks await them.
https://m.phys.org/news/2019-03-energy-giants-spent-1bn-climate.html?fbclid=IwAR3BDcNy5_7QniRFQe8-ReYRbIFvlGrVP2w-TpBn5nGUyMVc5Iww_bv6kdM
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Rex Weyler from Greenpeace has covered this issue just recently;
https://www.greenpeace.org/international/story/24288/the-oil-companies-knew-all-along/?fbclid=IwAR37MiUSwfpCmTFNMKXjce5Z8wAZdpGk-lsjzktWZp5AIaqFkDH9WdZ_NUQ
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GM and Ford knew about climate change 50 years ago, energy trade publication has uncovered
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/gm-and-ford-knew-about-climate-change-50-years-ago-energy-trade-publication-has-uncovered-11603738820?mod=home-page&fbclid=IwAR1HXn7bBSDvpDoUTY3TMyFl4v0r0z-XN3NJIO5j0v23FvvQpRCO4vxC5cc
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[…] Oil Giants admit to a 5C Temperature Increase being baked in but no one else will! […]
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There’s a reason why I never had children. And never intend to.
And people keep pouring scorn and derision on little Greta, as if she has no right to be angry.
Sorry, Greta.
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Well, we’re over 2C already and it’s only 2021. In 29 more years to 5C? How optimistic it sounds now, yes?
SomeoneInAsia, I’ve been of the same mind my entire life and managed to not father any children. I count myself lucky.
Greta has every right to be angry. As do we all because we are stuck in a controlled loop by those who profit from keeping the status quo going. We truly don’t have choices to make other than personal ones. The big changes are out of our hands.
That it is unraveling far quicker than this article premised is of no consequence to those who do profit, and they will no doubt continue with their program…until the methane lets go in the Arctic.
Nobody is going to survive that even in their bunkers and the Arctic is about to go dark…
So something fun every day.
sealintheSelkirks
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[…] the issue that even Shell Petroleum admits that 5C is baked in, the evidence is embedded here; Oil Giants admit to a 5C Temperature Increase being baked in but no one else will! This is the geo-engineering issue I mentioned; The Inevitability of Nuclear War and Subsequent […]
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Guy and Beryl collaborating on a new peer reviewed paper.
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where does it say that shell and iea admit/know, exactly, that it’s going to be 5c? this is on the assumed path that emissions will stay the same. i don’t see it anywhere.
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Oil Executives Privately Contradicted Public Statements on Climate, Files Show
The documents, subpoenaed in a House investigation of climate disinformation, show company leaders contravening industry commitments.
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It’s incredible the evidence we have against them and not one of the planet killers have been jailed.
It’s almost as if the game is rigged!
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/jan/12/exxon-climate-change-global-warming-research?fbclid=IwAR05cUM5fcNoXh4R3Qgbbwhl6mLTXTrBH5ef61cZYq2CCT12AMNMOSLn05I
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10C warming locked-in
And so it goes…
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“Exxon Mobil’s scientists were remarkably accurate in their predictions about global warming, even as the company made public statements that contradicted its own scientists’ conclusions, a new study says.”
https://fortune.com/2023/01/12/exxon-scientists-climate-change-knew-how-bad-1970s-global-warming-public-denials/?fbclid=IwAR2_TevTETgahBRqacKAJejvmR0E8JigyL9PJx-iJIN9kSM0OTC80JOWb9A
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Total outrage on US Climate Envoy Kerry supporting that UAE Oil Exec ‘picked’ as president of UN Oil Summit because he’s “SO QUALIFIED!”
Quote: “”I think that Dr. Sultan al-Jaber is a terrific choice because he is the head of the company. That company knows it needs to transition”…TO WHAT?
https://www.commondreams.org/news/kerry-el-jaber
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The Hopium is going right out the door here! But then after all, it always was a fantasy. Crazy stuff, Kevin, no doubt about it.
sealintheSelkirks
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“However, as Follow the Money detailed, the newly unveiled records show that “Shell already began collecting knowledge about climate change in the 1960s. The company not only kept well abreast of climate science, but also funded research. As a result, Shell already knew in the 1970s that burning fossil fuels could lead to alarming climate change.”
https://consortiumnews.com/2023/04/05/oil-giant-knew-about-climate-impacts-even-earlier/?fbclid=IwAR0JtfBU2AwwSOYpIPYq7rTEKg1jc7KPCO3lKTyarGOWiF9W6oWfGovXRBM
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“Research shows that company modeled and predicted global warming with ‘shocking skill and accuracy’ starting in the 1970s”.
https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2023/01/harvard-led-analysis-finds-exxonmobil-internal-research-accurately-predicted-climate-change/
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From Desmog on Facadebook!
Last week, Dana Drugmand reported on Multnomah County’s lawsuit against a long list of fossil fuel companies, associations, and consulting companies.
Our Disinformation Database 🌎 is a great resource for understanding the companies and people that have worked to mislead the public on climate change.
Let’s dive into some of the defendant’s profiles!
Koch Industries, Inc. is the largest privately owned company in the United States. According to Greenpeace, the Koch Brothers have sent at least $100,343,292 to 84 groups denying climate change science since 1997. Read more: https://loom.ly/0LR7VvI
Koch Industries is so vast, we have a specific database used to track the individuals and organizations linked to Charles Koch or other members of the Koch family, Koch Industries, and related entities. Explore it here: https://loom.ly/MlWxUEw
American Petroleum Institute is the largest trade association for the oil and gas industry, representing over 600 corporate members. Read more: https://loom.ly/JfQ8Y4A
Western States Petroleum Association is the oldest petroleum trade association in the United States. Membership of WSPA includes large petroleum and energy companies such as Chevron, BP, ConocoPhillips, Exxon, Shell, and numerous others. Read more: https://loom.ly/4NNoQGU
McKinsey & Company is a private consulting firm that has advised at least 43% of the world’s top 100 largest carbon emitters, including BP, Exxon Mobil, Chevron, Gazprom and Saudi Aramco. Read more: https://loom.ly/aOQTbjU
Other defendants include the fossil fuel companies: ExxonMobil, Chevron, BP, Shell, ConocoPhillips, Motiva, Occidental Petroleum, Anadarko Petroleum, Space Age Fuel, Valero Energy, Total Specialties USA, and Marathon Petroleum.
Explore the depth of information we’ve compiled on companies and associations like these in our Disinformation Database here: https://loom.ly/ox2h_n8
And read more about the new lawsuit in Dana Drugmand’s recent article 🔗
https://loom.ly/4DUOFhM
Koch Industries, Inc.
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Italian oil giant Eni knew about climate change more than 50 years ago, report reveals
“They’ve been playing us all for fools.”
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More on Shells crimes
https://www.desmog.com/2024/01/17/new-shell-files-could-aid-climate-cases-attorneys-say/?fbclid=IwAR3GAP01V_OVjZFlMRwfUVYHe7TTjvBHD21oVIKC-M3w3gI5RkElPXa1-JE
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Business is booming, if you’re sucking at the public teat as you fry the planet!
https://www.thecanary.co/opinion/2024/03/20/shell-tax-rebate/?__s=x5b1ecq8sntqp6czobhy
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