Scientific Mal-Practice from the Mann Himself

In an August the  5th 2018 article in Salon titled “On Climate Change it’s time to start panicking” Michael E Mann bare faced lies to an unsuspecting public saying that it is still possible to avoid a dangerous 2C temperature rise on this beleaguered planet.
“The good news is that humanity hasn’t passed the point of no return, at least when it comes to the total destruction of our species (we have definitely passed that point when it comes to avoiding any kinds of lasting consequences). If we are to stave off even worse examples of extreme weather than the hurricanes, wildfires, floods, droughts and heat waves we’ve already experienced, however, we need to start implementing intelligent policies — and do so now.”
At this point in the article I urge informed readers to get a bucket to spew into when you read the following orchestrated litany of lies from the Mann Himself;

“I would place a price on carbon,” Michael E Mann, a Distinguished Professor of Atmospheric Science at Penn State, told Salon by email. “Whether this takes the form of a carbon tax (a revenue-neutral carbon tax? fee and dividend? cap-and-trade?), I leave that to the policymakers to determine as long as they accept, as the premise for policy, what the science has to say about the reality and threat of climate change. The price on carbon needs to be set such that it leads to a reduction in carbon emissions of several percent a year for the next few decades. If we do that, we can avoid a catastrophic 2C (~3.5 F) warming of the planet.”

If the reader has been paying any attention at all regarding the unfolding catastrophe and is aware of all the tipping points we have already crossed, they will know that this goal is impossible and the statement a blatant lie from a world renowned scientist. The ‘Go to guy’ for the corporate media. How dire must the situation be for Mann to be lying blatantly like this?
How the fuck will a tax over “the next few decades” prevent us from crossing the 2C rubicon when we are already something like 1.7C above the 1700 baseline, the only one we should be using. Factor in the 10 to 30 year lag between cause and effect of our emissions and it’s clear 2C is an impossibility?
For pities sake, 2C is baked in now, not decades into a future that will never arrive.
I take no pleasure in calling Mann a liar but the facts speak for themselves.

I’ll give you a hint where this is going to and coming from; “He also rejected the idea promoted by many on the left that a lasting solution to global warming is impossible under a free-market capitalist economic system.” “I’m unconvinced that is true,” Mann explained. “In the past, market mechanisms for pricing environmental externalities have worked. We acted on acid rain and ozone depletion within a market economy framework. The real problem, in my view, isn’t the nature of our economic system, it’s the way that special interests and plutocrats have blocked the sort of common-sense market approaches to dealing with environmental problems that were once supported by democrats and republicans alike. The problem is the moral and ethical rot that now lies at the very center of the republican establishment, the lack of good faith and the total sellout to special interests and plutocrats.”Can you Smell a free-market capitalist rat yet?

Not only is the liar saying that market forces can fix this predicament, he’s blaming the Republicans. Hilary Clinton’s script writer couldn’t have put it ‘better’. Maybe they wrote it for him?
Mann is patently owned by the very same corporations that are grinding the living planet into dust.
We have covered previously on this blog the “Total Lack of Urgency” being shown by scientists when covering our predicament. Contrast that with Meyer Hillman’s owning up on his death bed; “Were Doomed, Meyer Hillman on the climate reality that no one else will dare mention” 
Typically The Guardian in their title above ignored the seminal work of Professor Guy McPherson who has been raising the extinction alarm since 2012.
Check out this excellent expose’ of Mann making a liar of himself “Irony of Inaction- With “Honest” MIchael Mann

There is no past analogue for the rapidity of what we are baring witness to.
There has been a flood of articles recently from very mainstream as well as alternative media about the climate crisis where they admit that 2C is no longer attainable and that we are heading for dangerous climate change ( appallingly Greenpeace said on twitter today that 1.5C is achievable !!!!! Now they are outright lying as well.)
The media have been forced to address the predicament because of the rapidity of change yet still they aren’t conveying the true severity of the unfolding catastrophe and the rapidity of the change.
I’ve repeatedly quoted Albert Bartlett with his seminal statement “One of the greatest shortcomings of the human race is it’s inability to understand the exponential function”. We are now in the non-linear stage of the unraveling, there are few alive who will understand how quickly it will fall apart from here on despite our efforts to convey the urgency of the situation.

Kevin Sandbloom from  Black Bear News  also calls out Mann and his ‘tax’ and  the nuclear industry for their lies in the following embedded link;  French nuclear productionreduced by 31 GW due to heatwave !! So much for Nukes saving the planet from climate change!
The two embedded links below cover both an overview of abrupt climate change and an explanation of the rapidity we should brace for;
Overview Of Abrupt Anthropogenic Climate Change

Edge of Extinction: Rate Matters

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I'm an anti-imperialist, environmental activist and blue ocean sailor, who is passionate about the earth and all it's inhabitants without favour. Brace for imminent impact as we bare witness to the non-linear unraveling of the biosphere and habitability disappearing for most if not all complex life on the only habitable planet we know of. To quote President Niinistö in North Russia: ‘If We Lose the Arctic, We Lose the World’. Folks we have lost the Arctic.

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76 comments on “Scientific Mal-Practice from the Mann Himself
  1. Kevin Hester says:

    More lies from the Mann himself

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    • Carbon emissions are starting to plateau? That the first I’ve heard of that happening! As a matter of fact the dent in emissions due to Covid lock-downs last year seem to have surged right on past 2019’s emissions this year. And don’t listen to the DOOMERS because, well you know, they’re too depressing and of course technology is going to save us.

      I’m at 9:14 and do I really need to watch the rest of this, Kevin? I should be cooking dinner, or feeding the dog, maybe vacuuming the front room, scrubbing the toilet…something more useful. Let me know and I’ll finish watching it later.

      As for Biden’s so-called ‘Climate Plan’ this should show where we’re heading:

      Biden’s Forest Service To Facilitate Quadrupling Of Oil Production

      Center for Biological Diversity

      Salt Lake city, Utah – In a massive blow to U.S. efforts to address the climate crisis, the Biden administration is poised to approve a right-of-way through the Ashley National Forest that would take the climate-damaging Uinta Basin Railway one step closer to being built.
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      sealintheSelkirks

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  2. More on Mann’s claim about GHGs/CO2. According to this, it has NOT flattened but the opposite!

    ‘We are way off track’: New climate report shows sharp rise in greenhouse gas emissions

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/10/26/2060304/–We-are-way-off-track-New-climate-report-shows-sharp-rise-in-greenhouse-gas-emissions

    sealintheSelkirks

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  3. Kevin Hester says:

    Mann whining on Twitter;

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    • I agree with Mann. Pissing on a meeting that is a useless joke designed to accomplish nothing but self-congratulatory ego-massaging that allows the corporate Doomers and those they own & control to continue to operate the world for their own profit statements to continue with their destructive behavior with a sheen of ‘we are saving the world’ green-washing PR layered over the top of their lies certainly won’t help anyone or the planet.

      Can you find the irony in my agreement with him? Could he? I doubt it.

      sealintheSelkirks

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  4. Here’s Greta Thunberg outside of COP-OUT 26. This is from a Reuters twitter link and many of the comments are rather negative. So many ignorant twits out there.

    “…they know exactly what they are doing…” and she’s absolutely correct, they DO know exactly what they are doing just as Mann knows the bird-dogging he’s doing going nah-nah at people calling bullshit trying to shame them for pissing reality on these stupid greenwashing meetings.

    The avalanche continues to crash down hill on all our heads, but we don’t have bunkers full of food and guns…

    sealintheSelkirks

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    • She came up with the term Chief Climate Fucktard for Mann. I had chuckles going on that one. Nobody has commented on it since 2019 when it was published and I wonder just what everyone (including the writer) is thinking after the last 2 1/2 years of accelerated collapse in every field that I can think of.

      Good essay.

      So…we can call ourselves Themists instead of DOOMERS and ALARMISTS! Nobody in this mountain area would have any idea what the hell I was talking about as I don’t think one in a thousand know anything about ancient Greece around here (and there are only 40,000 total in the county so even that may be stretching it!).

      I tabbed latest posts and she quit publishing in 2019 as she was going in for ‘cataract surgery?’ So has she left the stage sometime after Nov 2019? Did she ever get to see just how dirty her house was?

      sealintheSelkirks

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  5. Kevin Hester says:

    The latest lies from the Liar Michael Mann

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    • Blah blah blah, eh? As the woman PhD says, both the policy sector AND the private sector…2070 is a statement to draw attention…a goal we’ll ‘get to LATER’ at holding temperature to 1.5C. WTF? It’s already beyond later since 2C already passed measuring from 1750… And Mann says…BLAH BLAH BLAH…lot of progress…and ‘WE’ are neglecting to recognize that… WTF? Thunberg must really piss him off, ya know?

      So tired of the absolute bullshit being spewed.

      Oh, and those indigenous communities at COP-OUT26? You mean the ones that the rich countries don’t listen to anyway because they’re all a bunch of uncouth uncivlized savages?

      Then there is this concept brought up by Feffer (as if US politicians would even think about doing this!):

      If You Think the Pushback Against Vaccine Mandates is Unhinged, Wait for the Climate Mandates

      https://fpif.org/if-you-think-vaccine-mandate-pushback-is-bad/
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      sealintheSelkirks

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  6. Kevin Hester says:

    “On the show, Chris Hedges discuss the corporatization and corruption of American science with the author Clifford D. Conner.”

    “Science in the United States almost exclusively serves the interest of corporate and military power. Science historian Clifford Conner writes that the corruption of science exploded with the 1942-1945 Manhattan Project, the first “big science” project in which the government spent massively on developing the atom bomb. Science, from this point forward, became big business. Scientists are employed in “hypothesis-driven” research to promote the interests of the food industry, the tobacco industry, and the fossil fuel industry, attacking or silencing scientific studies that cast doubt on the claims of these industries. The result is a society awash in lies, many of them buttressed by bogus scientific studies carried out to reach the conclusion demanded by those who pay for the studies.”

    https://dandelionsalad.wordpress.com/2021/09/04/chris-hedges-the-corporatization-and-corruption-of-american-science/?fbclid=IwAR3Lo_vXt4SI5-E5G0ZxN-Q0bBtd9SDjSCba7JAbRuQQ2DudMEvhrCWRFmc

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  7. Kevin Hester says:

    “On the show, Chris Hedges discuss the corporatization and corruption of American science with the author Clifford D. Conner.”
    “Science in the United States almost exclusively serves the interest of corporate and military power. Science historian Clifford Conner writes that the corruption of science exploded with the 1942-1945 Manhattan Project, the first “big science” project in which the government spent massively on developing the atom bomb. Science, from this point forward, became big business. Scientists are employed in “hypothesis-driven” research to promote the interests of the food industry, the tobacco industry, and the fossil fuel industry, attacking or silencing scientific studies that cast doubt on the claims of these industries. The result is a society awash in lies, many of them buttressed by bogus scientific studies carried out to reach the conclusion demanded by those who pay for the studies.”
    https://dandelionsalad.wordpress.com/2021/09/04/chris-hedges-the-corporatization-and-corruption-of-american-science/?fbclid=IwAR3Lo_vXt4SI5-E5G0ZxN-Q0bBtd9SDjSCba7JAbRuQQ2DudMEvhrCWRFmc

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Kevin Hester is currently living on Rakino Island, a small island in the Hauraki Gulf near Auckland, New Zealand, monitoring the unravelling of the biosphere and volunteering at the Rakino Island Nursery is currently developing a proposal to create a marine reserve near by. The Island has no grid tied electricity or reticulated water.  I catch my own water from the roof and generate my electricity from the ample solar radiation on the island.

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