Tipping Points in the Earth Climate System. Dr Andrew Glikson returns to Nature Bats Last

Todays guest on Nature Bats Last was Dr Andrew Glikson from the Australian National University. Dr Andrew Glikson is a geologist living in Australia. He is an Earth scientist and paleo-climatologist currently serving as Visiting Fellow at the Australian National University. He is the author of dozens of articles and ten books, notably including his 2015 masterpiece Climate, Fire and Human Evolution: The Deep Time Dimensions of the Anthropocene. 

Put your feet up, relax and enjoy, episode 129 of Nature Bats Last which is embedded here;

I’ve posted below corroborating links to the discussion.
We discussed Dr Glikson’s recent article titled: Beyond Climate Tipping Points: Greenhouse Gas Levels Exceed the Stability Limit of the Greenland and Antarctic Ice Sheets

I additionally quoted an article from Scripts Institution of Oceanography titled ; Research Highlight: Loss of Arctic’s Reflective Sea Ice Will Advance Global Warming by 25 Years

“The 4.3 million hectare fire – an area now larger than Denmark – is contributing significantly to climate change.
Since the beginning of the year, a total of 13.1 million hectares has burned.” A climate catastrophe that can not be stopped by human means! Russian fires now bigger than Denmark: 13 million hectares gone

I mentioned that both Dr Glikson and Professor McPherson are concerned about the methane threat and how they both respect the work of Dr Natalia Shakova and her colleagues. A link to a recent paper from Dr Shakova titled ” Understanding the Permafrost–Hydrate System and Associated Methane Releases in the East Siberian Arctic Shelf”can be found here;  A video interview with her courtesy of Nick Breeze is embedded here;
As well as discussing the scientific aspects of what we are witnessing, we discussed the psychological roller coaster we are all on and Dr Gliksons’ Poetry and the role it plays in absorbing and expressing the psychological challenges this knowledge of the predicament we find ourselves in entails. Finding an emotional and artistic outlet  we believe is imperative.
Mine is to volunteer at the not for profit Rakino Island Nursery on a rewilding program. It’s both my “Antidote to despair” as Edward Abbey wrote but also proof that just because I recognise the severity of the multiple crises we face it doesn’t mean I have ‘given up’, an accusation often leveled at Professor McPherson and myself.

Guy spoke about “Scientific Reticence”, he has covered it previously on his You Tube Channel and blog Nature Bats Last   Here is an excellent edit on the subject via the Tim Bob Channel  featuring Guy.

“At the risk of seeming ridiculous let me say that the true revolutionary is guided by a great feeling of love. It is impossible to think of a genuine revolutionary lacking this quality.” Ernesto Che Guevarra.

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Q&A: Dr Andrew Glikson on the Plutocene age

Dr Andrew Glikson

I'm an anti-imperialist, environmental activist and blue ocean sailor, who is passionate about the earth and all it's inhabitants without favour. Brace for imminent impact as we bare witness to the non-linear unraveling of the biosphere and habitability disappearing for most if not all complex life on the only habitable planet we know of. To quote President Niinistö in North Russia: ‘If We Lose the Arctic, We Lose the World’. Folks we have lost the Arctic.

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75 comments on “Tipping Points in the Earth Climate System. Dr Andrew Glikson returns to Nature Bats Last
  1. Kevin Hester says:

    “It is often assumed climate change will proceed gradually as we increase the amounts of CO2 in the atmosphere. Over the last 15 years, however, it has become increasingly clear that the Earth’s climate system or subsystems thereof—such as sea ice cover, monsoon systems, and ocean currents—might shift abruptly and with little warning as CO2 levels go up. This is known as climate tipping.
    “Two studies from the European TiPES project now add to the evidence that tipping could be imminent and might be more widespread in the climate system than usually anticipated.”



  2. As the 20th day of above 38C bakes the world outside my windows I’ve been of the mind that this isn’t ‘just’ a frigging heat dome but that this could be more like a sudden climatic shift from one stabile state to…whatever this is going to be. Until of course next Spring and Summer, then worse the year after that. The 30 year lag time between emissions and effects is going to be huge.

    I mostly check my thermometer after 3pm but only once. I don’t go outside much at this point, Kevin. I’m an ocean person, a born & raised beach kid, who never enjoyed desert heat and this is acting like I’m living in Phoenix. But of course Phoenix is 118’F at this point…it’s almost 3pm my time so I’ll be going out to do that before I post this. It will be grim because just poking my head out a bit ago took my breath away.

    I was cornered by a local woman in her early 50s maybe on Monday out back of the 2nd hand store where I fix furniture once a week as I was emptying trash. She’s local and not exactly raised to think for herself and had little if any ideas on how critical thinking skills work. Not a bad person, just ignorant and unquestioning. She has however talked with me for years on different subjects including climate and admitted that she was raised to think the world is 6,000 years old which she somehow got past that indoctrination and became a better person for it… She knows me as the noisy old surfer dude no doubt about it but to her I’m like some kind of exotic alien species in the way I think and what I talk about. Funny that she actually likes talking with me.

    She came up asking for HER HUSBAND about websites to read up themselves on what the hell is going on. She’s freaking at this weather, so is he. It was hot as f**k at 8pm so we ducked into the shade of the building. She’s a cleaning woman, closes up and cleans the public laundry business on the street west of where we were, and then walks to the bank across the alley afterwards. I see her just about every week and we at least wave to one another.

    Kevin, she literally asked me how long before it all collapses. She said her husband was saying we might only have ten years and she was reading into stuff and told me that she thinks five years if we’re lucky!

    What the hell was I going to do, lie to her? They have no idea about the 50gt of methane and everything else going on etc etc because they read corporate-approved climate stuff (ie Michael Mann and that ilk) and what the TV news doesn’t censor.

    Well DUH! I gave her both your website address and arctic_news.blogspot.com figuring that would keep them busy. Then we talked for about ten minutes and I pretty much threw out a freaking list of this leads to that which does this and creates that that makes those…you know, connect the dots. Her face looked pretty grim.

    I asked her if they had kids and she said no, they never did. I told her that was good. She understood why I said that because she nodded. I’ll see her next week and hear what she thinks…if things don’t burn down or choke out on wildfire smoke from elsewhere or blow up into a full-on 2nd Wave of Delta & Gamma CoVid-19 mutations emergency because NOBODY is wearing masks around here and this county has a 22% vaxx rate…like it’s doing all over the US in non-vax populations.

    Gonna be fewer Trump voters if this keeps up. The 1918 Pandemic had three waves in three years. We’re in 1 1/2 years with the 2nd Wave roaring. Read about Sidney AUS and their scary goings-on today. Ouch. Sounds really familiar.

    Okay, 3:30 time to go out and check the thermometer. With an umbrella over my head even with my Aussie wide-brim river-runner hat. Yeah, it’s that hot.

    Temp is: 41’C/106F. And windy as plants are blowing around and the tops of the conifers are swaying. TWENTY DAYS OF THIS, Kevin! At least here in the mountains the temps drop at night unlike a lot of other places on the West Coast I could name.

    Yesterday the hot tub guy came by to fix a leak. Then we filled it. He’s slowly been working on it trying to get it back up and running, rebuilding motors etc for barter/trade. I only pay for components needed bought. But it’s a 2002 Hot Springs model so it was well worth the money to keep my lower back injury loose enough to function all these years. It’s been down for almost two years and I’ve definitely gotten stiffer in the meantime…

    It’s not yet working, looks like it needs a new power/test/reset cord (maybe the last problem?), but it now has 325 gallons of 43’F well water in it. Way cool! The little tub is warming up of course, nothing is exempt from that at this point with this heat, but taking a below-body-temp soak sounds like a pretty good idea in the evenings don’t ya think? Even if the water ends up being 80’F it will feel cooler and help lower core body temps. I’m surprised more people around here haven’t died as there has never been much AC. Besides being too damned expensive to install for most, the electric bills alone would break budgets. And nobody realizes that what they do is put the hot air outside the building so it actually causes measurable increases in temperatures to the surrounding area if there’s enough of it (like urban settings). Is that Irony or what? A very sick form!


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  3. Yep, and this guy is saying “within a decade or two or several centuries.” I have a real bad feeling about that…


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    • At the end of the article they list methane. That one alone, when the Burp lets loose, will end this un-civilized civilization, Not much doubt it will as it has before in the geological record.

      A 50GT burp and a staggering AMOC…oh my this just isn’t looking good.

      Oh wait, this article’s comment is that ” these deposits can be released into the atmosphere and present a risk of enhanced warming.” Enhanced warming? Really? Sounds so relaxing that we can all just go to the beach and have a fish fry. Just a little climate change after all, and the weather is always changing, right?

      Yep, there’s always more and sometimes they even mention it a little but always make it sound not so bad. Why is that?

      9/11 and the World Trade Centers countrywide mourning all day today everywhere I’ve read. Why so glum? Dick Cheney and the US Fascists got their new Pearl Harbor they said they needed to install their ‘Project for a New American Century’ just a couple years after they published it. How…coincidental. God must have been on their side.


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Kevin Hester is currently living on Rakino Island, a small island in the Hauraki Gulf near Auckland, New Zealand, monitoring the unravelling of the biosphere and volunteering at the Rakino Island Nursery is currently developing a proposal to create a marine reserve near by. The Island has no grid tied electricity or reticulated water.  I catch my own water from the roof and generate my electricity from the ample solar radiation on the island.

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