We are caught in a monkey trap and there is no way out. All the rest is spin. Brace for impact. A really thought-provoking article from Deep Green Resistance world. Starts as follows:
“Don’t talk to me about sustainability. You want to question my lifestyle, my impact, my ecological footprint? There is a monster standing over us, with a footprint so large it can trample a whole planet underfoot, without noticing or caring. This monster is Industrial Civilization. I refuse to sustain the monster. If the Earth is to live, the monster must die. This is a declaration of war.”
“What is it we are trying to sustain? A living planet, or industrial civilization? Because we can’t have both.”
“Somewhere along the way the environmental movement – based on a desire to protect the Earth, was largely eaten by the sustainability movement – based on a desire to maintain our comfortable lifestyles. When did this happen, and why? And how is it possible that no-one noticed? This is a fundamental shift in values, to go from compassion for all living beings and the land, to a selfish wish to feel good about our inherently destructive way of life.”
“The sustainability movement says that our capacity to endure is the responsibility of individuals, who must make lifestyle choices within the existing structures of civilization. To achieve a truly sustainable culture by this means is impossible. Industrial infrastructure is incompatible with a living planet. If life on Earth is to survive, the global political and economic structures need to be dismantled.”
Article continues here: Sustainability is destroying the Earth.
Professor Tim Garrett’s work on “Industrial Civilisation is a Heat Machine” is a must read, check out his website above.
Simon Michaux slaying some green myths!
I'm an anti-imperialist, environmental activist and blue ocean sailor, who is passionate about the earth and all it's inhabitants without favour. Brace for imminent impact as we bare witness to the non-linear unraveling of the biosphere and habitability disappearing for most if not all complex life on the only habitable planet we know of. To quote President Niinistö in North Russia: ‘If We Lose the Arctic, We Lose the World’. Folks we have lost the Arctic.
Kevin Hester 
“And it suggests NSW taxpayers are missing out on tens of millions of dollars in waste levies, which would be payable if the material was dumped in NSW landfill rather than being trucked 900 kilometres north and dumped in Queensland.”
Have a think for a moment about the carbon footprint of this ‘recycling’.
Sapiens, so good at fooling themselves and no one else.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/duped-at-the-dump-recycling-rort-as-the-truth-is-buried-20180219-p4z0v7.html
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“There are grand schemes to power the
world using renewable energy. The
difficulty is that no one has bothered to
check to see if the resources are available
to produce that energy.”
https://voicesmotherearth.blogspot.co.nz/2018/04/the-second-law-of-thermodynamics-gaping.html
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“Indeed, the term “renewable” is among the greatest PR confidence tricks ever to be played upon an unsuspecting public, since solar panels and wind (and tidal and wave) turbines are very much a product of and dependent upon the fossil carbon economy.”
http://consciousnessofsheep.co.uk/2018/05/11/not-so-renewables/
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“Industrial-scale renewable energy does nothing to remake exploitative relationships with the earth, and instead represents the renewal and expansion of the present capitalist order.”
Great article summing up the dishonesty surrounding the ‘renewable’ sector of the very same capitalism that is grinding the living planet into dust.
https://www.versobooks.com/blogs/3797-end-the-green-delusions-industrial-scale-renewable-energy-is-fossil-fuel
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Brilliant analysis from Robin Westenra from the Seemorerocks blog
https://robinwestenra.blogspot.co.nz/2018/05/theycan-talk-about-solutions-as-much-as.html?spref=fb
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Great interview with Professor Tim Garrett talking about Industrial civilisation being a heat engine irrespective of what it is powered with and a lesson in the second law of Thermo-dynamics ;
http://environmentalprofessionalspostulating.libsyn.com/ep-012-a-discussion-with-professor-tim-garrett
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Thanks Kevin – the interview isn’t so good haha, it’s still great to have the “Garrett Relation” and the Civilisation as a heat engine idea explained straight from the source.
P.S it’s the second law of thermodynamics 😬
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I don’t seem to be able to modify that comment, apologies just noticed you changed it….
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Great work from Dan Kinch at Brooklyn Culture Jammers;
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“The renewable road to extinction”.
Their title not mine.
https://consciousnessofsheep.co.uk/2018/06/18/the-renewable-road-to-extinction/
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“Ditch the almond milk: why everything you know about sustainable eating is probably wrong
From cod to clingfilm, the advice we’re given can often be confusing. If you’re serious about eating green, here are some straightforward solutions”
https://www.theguardian.com/food/2018/sep/05/ditch-the-almond-milk-why-everything-you-know-about-sustainable-eating-is-probably-wrong?CMP=fb_gu
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“So, even if sunlight and wind is seemingly infinite, our planet Earth is not. Any short-term material gain of ours is a loss for the world around us. Renewables only accelerate this process.”
More excellent, honest work from Tim Garrett who Professor Guy McPherson often quotes.
https://nephologue.blogspot.com/2018/07/are-renewables-our-salvation.html
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“Given the choice between economic collapse today and a global holocaust at some unspecified time in future, they’ll (we’ll) take the economy every time.”
There is no way to deny Jevons paradox unless you are a large NGO or the Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand spruiking for the renewable sector of capitalism.
The cold hard fact of the matter is that industrial civilisation is unsustainable and so called ‘ renewables’ are a diversion so that people won’t concentrate on the unfolding 6th great extinction and the unsustainability of our way of life.
I find it repulsive and cruel that leftys and greenies are selling this bullshit to the youth. When they find out about the severity of the crisis they are gonna be extremely angry. Make sure you don’t find yourself on the same side as the very corporations who have ground the living planet into dust and are bullshitting the youth.
http://consciousnessofsheep.co.uk/2018/06/18/the-renewable-road-to-extinction/
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“Four years ago a viral campaign wooed the world with a promise of fighting climate change and jump-starting the economy by replacing tarmac on the world’s roads with solar panels. The bold idea has undergone some road testing since then. The first results from preliminary studies have recently come out, and they’re a bit underwhelming.”
https://theconversation.com/solar-panels-replaced-tarmac-on-a-motorway-here-are-the-results-103568?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=facebookbutton
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Another problem with solar hiways is CARS & TRUCKS! they shade the roadway, cutting out the sun so they generate zero energy. Have they so soon forgotten GRIDLOCK?
As mentioned in the article, their made of GLASS & are thus brittle, so not only do they generate less juice than roof top solar, they wear out sooner & cost much much more than rooftop systems.
If you want solar panels on hiways, why not put them in the meridian?
They won’t be shaded, trucks won’t crush them, they can be placed at the most effective angle, all those cars & trucks whizzing by them could help keep off the dust & it would be easier to service or replace them.
Easier to steal too of course!
Of course none of this will solve their primary delema, their not scaleable, their not affordable, we will never be able to replace more than a fraction of the fossil resources we now use to generate electricity & they are also TEMPORARY due to resource & energy limitations.
More grasping at straws & hopium.
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The problem is industrial civilisation, not what you power it with.
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/lithium-batteries-environment-impact
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Of course this civilization is totally NOT sustainable no matter how we try to prop it up, it’s going to fail & collapse taking billions of us with it.
This is what so many people just cannot accept.
They have all kinds of schemes to “fix” it, urban farming, “renewables”, recycling, veganism, getting rid of cows as though cows were our worse problem, no their not, WE ARE, organic farming while good cannot save us, nothing can save this civilization, it will fail, it will collapse.
I don’t like this conclusion either but that is where the EVIDENCE leads me, total collapse & the painful deaths of billions of us.
What is so painful is all of the wonderful living things we are pushing to extinction & this didn’t start yesterday, it started over 100,000 years ago. We can now follow our trail of deaths from Africa all the way to Europe & the Americas, New Zealand & Australia.
Where ever humans trod, extinction followed, we are next.
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I am leaving Facebook! I have had it up to here with their extreme fundamentalist, conservative CENSORSHIP!
When you can’t even post a PRIVATE MESSAGE with a image of a baby boy without getting censored & shut out of Facebook, then it’s time to LEAVE! All that baby boy was doing was eating a bowl of cereal!
Facebook will not turn me into a fearful fundie afraid of posting anything but kittens & puppies!
What time I have left I want to spend living not fighting with Facebook.
Goodby & good luck Kevin, spend some time on the beach or forest & watch what life is still left before it’s all gone.
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All the best mate, look after yourself, you have my email if you want to contact me. “At the edge of extinction, only love remains” GMP
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Thank you Kevin! I wonder if Facebook would have censored a picture of the infant Jesus with his pee pee showing as he stepped on the head of a snake? Many simular painting hang in churches all over Europe & probably in the US as well. Many art books have images of the infant Jesus with his baby penis exposed.
What is wrong with these people? Do they have that “dirty” a mind that they believe a image of a baby with his baby penis in the bowl of cereal he was eating, pornographic?
It was cute & funny!
BTW, that baby was uncircumsized so his tiny penis didn’t even show & it was in a PRIVATE MESSAGE! I didn’t even try to post it to Facebook!
I will continue to monitor the state of our dying planet, I will continue to HATE the USA & it’s endless warmongering, terrorism, injustice & our fake “democracy” and fake “votes”.
Now that I’m off Facebook, I will have more time for news, climate sites, atmosphere sites, satelite images & videos on Youtube. ( I HATE English spelling as well!)
Let those extremist fundies keep Facebook!
I wish you well too Kevin, keep fighting for our planet, our RULERS care only for PROFITS.
But you can’t eat profits, you can’t breath profits & you can’t drink profits, they will die very very rich unless their wealth is in dollars.
May the dollar lose it’s statis as the worlds currency, soon!
The USA IS the “great Satan”!
“Love”? what is “love”?
I don’t know “love”.
“Love”is for others, not me.
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Tim Garrett of “Industrial civilisation is a heat machine” fame;
https://nephologue.blogspot.com/2018/
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https://www.ecoshock.org/2018/10/tim-garrett-the-physics-of-clouds-collapse.html?fbclid=IwAR3uEeTBfh-GUBDIRr7KHP-KfHUii6Yoj59rqyEKv6DE4mnUDhgsK9m_n90
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“GREEN GROWTH IS NOT POSSIBLE SAYS THE UNITED NATIONS: ‘Green Growth’ became a buzz phrase at the UN Conference on Sustainable Development in Rio de Janeiro. The World Bank, the OECD, the UN Environment Program all produced reports promoting green growth. It became the plank of the UN Sustainable Development Goals. However a team of scientists led by the German researcher Monika Dittrich first raised doubts in 2012. Further studies confirmed that ‘green growth’ was not possible. Alternative policies are suggested such as *shrinking the advertising, commuting and single-use product sectors of the economy *a shorter working week *basic income * better public services * using the Genuine Progress Indicator to measure economic success instead of GDP.”
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Sapiens continually searching for a silver bullet to keep BAU going for as long as possible;
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/a3mavb/we-dont-mine-enough-rare-earth-metals-to-replace-fossil-fuels-with-renewable-energy?fbclid=IwAR0R7lcx0NqfLfLtZ34HysnqXnzaq9Yn71pVaYhUR3xgR9k1g04vQfActRY
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So let’s open new mines–to get rare earth metals and lithium for the renewables! We’ll make money fast and save the planet too–what’s not to like? Amazon has to go of course but who needs Amazon anymore? It used to be a carbon sink but it’s a carbon source now. Africa’s rain forests have to go as well. Well, there are dangerous animals who needs them.
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You’ll never here the big NGO’s or the Green Party of Aotearoa talking about the slave labour or the ecological destruction of the environment in countries like the Congo so that we can make ourselves feel better about ‘renewables’ which in reality are really just derivatives of fossil fuels.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4764208/Child-miners-aged-four-living-hell-Earth.html?fbclid=IwAR1Op95ygOVJripHAdRQ8ocS0IhTV6NQuFNzA40cPcdIWoim_ZU4IwOtUVI#i-45597a7bd27d11d3
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The definitive analysis of why wind power can’t and won’t be the saviour of industrial civilisation. Many of the facts for wind apply equally for other ‘renewables’ which I now refeer to as derivatives not renewables and they are all derivatives of fossil fuels;
http://energyskeptic.com/2018/wind/?fbclid=IwAR0L0-Y4WK4D_bRuOLKhf1iN7Po65KFPUx-w-pJdN69D5yxCsUy5647NOLA
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I hate to be a spoil sport but the reality is as Tim Garrett has proven Industrial civiliation is a heat machine and it doesn’t matter what energy source we use they all fry the planet.
https://www.climatechangenews.com/2019/01/22/electric-cars-will-not-stop-rising-oil-demand-says-energy-agency-chief/?fbclid=IwAR1vhmWmnv8OvmogFR_e6qSBoTin8hqgnUxG2FOPAFG1kbLvKCT1yb-gHBE
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Audio recording about the myth of ‘renewables’ courtesy of Robin Westenra.
https://soundcloud.com/robin-westenra/dispatches-the-true-cost-of-green-energy?utm_source=soundcloud&utm_campaign=share&utm_medium=facebook&fbclid=IwAR2UyZI7o1M2NTwSXsdLVJq3rl1CjC3uf4_aWFNWbc0q65dRFeycl85xATA
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“Renewable energy is not the solution we think it is. We have inherited the bad/good energy dichotomy of fossil fuels versus renewable energy, a holdover from the environmental movement of the 1970’s that is misleading, if not false. Fossil fuels are correctly understood to be at the heart of capitalism, industrialism, and state formation, the results of which have been ecologically catastrophic. 1 Meanwhile, industrial-scale renewable energy has emerged as the protagonist of our times, positioned as a solution to our ever-increasing energy consumption. Along with market-based conservation and “natural capital” policy making, it is taken to be among the central mitigating forces against climate change and ecological degradation. ”
https://www.versobooks.com/blogs/3797-end-the-green-delusions-industrial-scale-renewable-energy-is-fossil-fuel?fbclid=IwAR1uw18LveLH546jYoYRVBGBN9MXXyImnt4nVigCSRZq1UyL_fjionI4Wcw
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Face it;
https://grist.org/article/report-going-100-renewable-power-means-a-lot-of-dirty-mining/?fbclid=IwAR1ZiMNH2cWXOks0oyop7vJeMAiPjiwS73_pfcs1HaZ802K2UHJtR4RxEnA
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Oh the irony;
http://ow.ly/cu2j30ov6WA?fbclid=IwAR08v7EFVqOPAeNhlHv8nFYI9rP_lRkahyOrlr_UumvuoNerS9uSJXwJglM
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More evidence;
https://inhabitat.com/green-batteries-renewable-energy-storage-will-cost-nature/?fbclid=IwAR2ri1h_1_H30v0UleLqA4LUf18cwWhtfXOJG3HzfaJ9NPRKqyItz14sPvc
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Courtesy of my Facadebook friend Eric Michaels. Another spoil sport truth teller.
https://www.americanexperiment.org/2019/08/environmental-disaster-solar-energy/?fbclid=IwAR1isargoaq6vlJboLt9CoZ5zRd6psxMGUNV1apu3E5GHACUaM1YTLvBvos
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The perpetual hunt for a silver bullet to an unsustainable civilisation comes up against the laws of thermodynamics yet again.
https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/environment/2019/09/myth-green-cars?fbclid=IwAR3SwZ650iH7WZNcXiD-rUFmlLvU1ASUsAj5q9EPiyv_0Rlo6Kbe8hCaGJE
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More inconvenient truth from Wolfgang
https://www.fasterthanexpected.one/100-renewables-is-it-possible/?fbclid=IwAR3oqApsmQWW-rgGgOMO1PYSayTjXoLi4OOuAu0ks5-7h3esfh-e9MuaEtU
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Capitalism at it’s best. Not just grinding the living planet into dust, using four year olds to do it’s dirty ‘green’ work.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4764208/Child-miners-aged-four-living-hell-Earth.html
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Rapid decarbonization is a fantasy:
Vaclav Smil rarely agrees to interviews. Too many in
the media have portrayed him as a tool of Big Oil, he
says – because he insists on pointing out how deeply dependent humanity is on fossil fuels and how difficult it will be to give them up.
The economist and professor emeritus at Canada’s
University of Manitoba heats his house with solar
energy. He’s no denier of global warming. He recog-
nizes the need to move away from plastics but asks
readers to note how often they touch them every day
and ask themselves how rapid they think the switch
can be.
His mission: Lay out facts. “I’m not an optimist or a
pessimist,” he likes to say. “I’m a scientist.”
https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2022-09-05/the-energy-historian-who-says-rapid-decarbonization-is-a-fantasy?_amp=true&fbclid=IwAR1HF4mcc06e96VVejHEJeK0_puRA6fXcAQj9-JnpMrmvQgZEByXPC28pHs
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An absolute “Piece de Resistance” of the folly of the ‘Renewable’, ‘Green’ meme, because that’s what it is, a fantasy.
I spoke to the students at the Deep Green Bush School a few years ago and they greeted me at the school with banners saying “Windmills and Solar Panels require mining too you know”
It was a great start to our day 😉
Alice Friedemann shared a link.on Facadebook
12 September at 06:54 ·
As I wrote in Life After fossil fuels: “Mining spews out acid rain, wastewater, and heavy metals onto land, water, and air (PEBI 2016). One-fifth of China’s arable land is polluted from mining and industry (BBC 2014). Mining the materials needed for renewable energy potentially affects 50 million square kilometers, 37% of Earth’s land (minus Antarctica), with a third of this land overlapping key biodiversity areas, wilderness, or protected areas.
https://energyskeptic.com/2022/why-how-mining-metals-for-renewables-will-destroy-the-planet-not-prevent-the-energy-crisis/?fbclid=IwAR0gUs2-qp9VtYoViKjXKuc-EjXfUS2VtcG-TJRdJZwa24WpjdffrbkWQhk
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To reinforce my point
https://consortiumnews.com/2022/10/17/electric-cars-resource-wars/
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Ramping Up Renewables Can’t Provide Enough Heat Energy in Winter
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Yeah, sustainability! That is not the question is it? The corporate madness continues to grow to ever-increasing levels. Texas politics is just a symptom of the overall insanity. When is it all going to break down? Soon I’m thinking but hey, I may be wrong and will have lost out to making my billions through wise investments in fossil fuel.
Then the planet dies. Saaay Laaa Veeee, baby!
Corpus Christi Sold Its Water to Exxon, Gambling on Desalination. So Far, It’s Losing the Bet
Concerns over ecological destruction have delayed desalination plans for years in this booming seaside city, where environmentalists see water supply as the “chokehold” on an oil sector buildout along the rugged Gulf Coast of South Texas.
https://insideclimatenews.org/news/04112022/corpus-christi-texas-exxon-water-desalination/
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This is a fantastic per reviewed article courtesy of Dr Mike Joy a realist scientist in Aotearoa NZ
” Only 19% of global final energy consumption is in the form of electricity. The other 81% is in the form of liquid fuel [31]. There are formidable obstacles to converting electricity consumption alone to so-called renewable sources.”
Through the Eye of a Needle: An Eco-Heterodox Perspective on the Renewable Energy Transition
https://www.mdpi.com/1996-1073/14/15/4508/htm?fbclid=IwAR2g7Hqd2lrfKhrAnrowgSll8yugJUMRqSLg5G4ocgqbW2X_NAWABwy-w5k
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Fucking Bezos. Fucking billionaires, Fucking multi-millionaires for that matter. How much do they actually need? Oh, right, always more because…well, just because.
All this tech is just trying to band-aide the gaping wounds that are bleeding profusely…so we don’t have to look at it or make even the slightest change in the lifestyles of the rich and famous.
I’ve read a few articles lately on on just how much the tiny percentage of rich people are responsible for a huge amount of GHGs. The private jet thing is obscene, doing little hops here and there. Interesting that France just cancelled air flights that are connected by public transportation (trains) but that doesn’t apply to the wealthy. Madness.
Then there are people like this who I’ve never heard of before that pop up now and then. I don’t know where your Rogue’s Gallery thread is so I’m having to post it here instead:
“There’s no emergency” – dissident climatologist Dr Judith Curry on climate change
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Sustainability? You heard about the complete shutdown of the crab fishery in Alaska, yes? They thought it was all about climate but it might also have a lot to do with stupid people…oh wait, that’s why the climate…oh never mind!
https://nautil.us/where-have-all-the-snow-crabs-gone-248247/?utm_source=pocket-newtab
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Steve’s latest with a great audio function.
https://stevebull-4168.medium.com/todays-contemplation-collapse-cometh-civ-b38bfa278197
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But all this is under control! All we have to do is GO WITH THE PLAN. These scientists have it all figured out so that industrial civilization and fossil fuel can continue forever… geoengineering is the next big thing?
I did post that article about explosions throw moon dust out into space that will get between the Earth and the Sun, yes? I’m having trouble tracking all the crazy shit going on…but this just popped up:
60 Scientists Call for Accelerated Research Into ‘Solar Radiation Management’ That Could Temporarily Mask Global Warming
Their public letter comes after an even larger group of scientists and academics called for a strict ban on such “geoengineering,” saying it could divert attention and resources from needed greenhouse gas
https://insideclimatenews.org/news/27022023/solar-radiation-management-global-warming/
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Our species is nuts, dude.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=El5XD2ZjhY4
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Ocean Warming Study So Distressing, Some Scientists Didn’t Even Want to Talk About It
“This is one of those ‘sit up and read very carefully’ moments,” said one science journalist.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/ocean-warming-study
May we live in interesting times?
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Lower Selkirk Range weather:
Last snowfall was 20April, expected temperature on 29April is 26-27C. Freaky damn weather across this continent…
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