This months guest on Nature Bats Last is Arthur Keller author of the You Tube Presentation “Collapse: The Only Realistic Scenario”.
Kevin and Guy were joined by Arthur Keller, who studies system dynamics. Initially a rocket scientist, Keller has become an author, screenwriter, and keynote speaker. We lost Arthur for a few moments but the technicians at the studio burst into life, recovered the signal with him and he saw out an interesting hour with us.
Arthur’s seminal You Tube Presentation: Collapse: The Only Realistic Scenario
I mentioned the work of Albert Bartlett and his contention that “The Greatest Shortcoming of the Human Race is our inability to understand the exponential Function” I’ve embedded that presentation for further reference
This interview continues a theme on NBL of non-linear changes we are witnessing. Grasping the significance of non-linearity is crucial to this predicament. Our previous guest Dr Andrew Glikson has a similar contention. That interview and corroborating evidence is embedded here;
Professor Paul Ehrlich was interviewed previously on this blog about his position on the coming collapse. That discussion is embedded here:
Good luck everyone
I'm an anti-imperialist, environmental activist and blue ocean sailor, who is passionate about the earth and all it's inhabitants without favour. Brace for imminent impact as we bare witness to the non-linear unraveling of the biosphere and habitability disappearing for most if not all complex life on the only habitable planet we know of. To quote President Niinistö in North Russia: ‘If We Lose the Arctic, We Lose the World’. Folks we have lost the Arctic.
Kevin Hester 
Via Just Collapse on Facadebook
4 February at 17:53 ·
At a ground-breaking event on collapse (Oct 2021), academics and activists spoke at the University of Tasmania, including the authors of the highly read and controversial Energies paper, ‘Through the Eye of a Needle: An Eco-Heterodox Perspective on the Renewable Energy Transition’.
One audience member observed: ‘I listened to it live and constantly found myself asking, “Is this actually happening? Is this University legit? Are these academics truly telling it like they see it?” I concluded with the same take-away – that they’re no longer concerning themselves with “what ifs” or the typical “we can still act to save it all!” type of approach. Instead, they seemed like they were genuinely “bracing for impact” – and some of them looked and sounded downright scared. That freaked me out and threw me off in a way that I wasn’t expecting.’
#TalkCollapse because everyone has a right to know what’s coming.
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Here we go as this ‘progressive’ Democrats-will-save-us-if-only-we-get-rid-of-Trump oriented website (always posts whatever Mann is spouting, too, by the way) throws down some really bad news to its readership.
There’s always a lot of comments that bleed hopium on so I’m sure you’ll appreciate the first paragraph of “scientists increasingly concerned” and “potentially resulting” which is about as close as they can get to saying YOU ARE FUCKED, PEOPLE. Yeah, well…
Scientists Fear Soaring Methane Levels Show Climate Feedback Loop Has Arrived
Rapidly rising levels of atmospheric methane are “very bad news for humanity and the planet,” warned one observer.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/02/09/scientists-fear-soaring-methane-levels-show-climate-feedback-loop-has-arrived
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It was 9C three days ago, brilliant sunshine warm sun through the windows…on 7Feb in the Selkirk Range? I’m kidding, right? Night-time temps are what the daytime temps should be. Yeah, well…again.
Yesterday cooled some but today did the same, blue sky sunshine. It’s starting to give a scary feeling that winter is over already…like it did last year when the wildfires started up in March in this district instead of the last frost being in June. I’d have to look back on my old calendars to see when that last happened as I don’t remember right off the bat.
This is not good but also not unexpected as how can I possibly not anticipate worse and worse outcomes?
Remember the old adage ‘Knowledge is Power?’ Weeelll, I’m not feeling too good about the knowledge at this point because there isn’t a fucking thing I can do to change what’s coming. So I do what I can and handed out the Approaching Collapse Forum link to people that asked what the latest was on Monday in Chewelah. That’s about all I can accomplish anymore. It doesn’t feel like enough, Kevin, but there isn’t any more to give.
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Andy has hit the nail on the head with the insanity of closing our only oil refinery. When war breaks out in the Pacific we’ll see the disruption of fuel supplies to Aotearoa New Zealand. Not having a refinery means we’ll see society break down within weeks of the blockade.
Disclaimer; I worked on the Marsden Point Expansion project in the early 1980’s, I have oil and it’s emissions on my hands.
https://sustainabile.substack.com/p/honesty-box?token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjoxMjY0NzUyLCJwb3N0X2lkIjo0OTgxOTU4MSwiXyI6IklHYVNNIiwiaWF0IjoxNjQ2NjEwMDc1LCJleHAiOjE2NDY2MTM2NzUsImlzcyI6InB1Yi03MTY0NTIiLCJzdWIiOiJwb3N0LXJlYWN0aW9uIn0.WkAlw4vajF09SeQulRrKxcaxybRCn8Q3I3XSTljhDes&utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&s=r
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Yeah, you might find out that things will fall apart very quickly in New Zealand if the only way to move anything is by horse-drawn wagon or a person’s back! I expect we’ll find that happening all over.
Here in these mountains the ignorant are all about becomes lords of all they survey from their armed compounds full of their followers/believers.
Along with professing a deep and faithful love that they all worship Jee-sus who assures them that might makes right as usual. As if those two wildly opposing thoughts could possibly co-exist but the human brain is quite squishy…like putty, eh? What caliber weapon would Jee-sus carry I wonder?
But regardless they’ll end up walking, too, because without their mechanized farm equipment and lot of gasoline there is no way that they can grow, move, and store enough feed for their horse-mounted army past the first winter. Not without ongoing shipments of petroleum just like NZ. The horses will starve to death except the ones in the wild maybe…
No refineries around here, either, Kevin. And I’m sure whatever remains of armed gov authority will be ‘requisitioning’ any and all private fuel supplies they can get.
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Gas just jumped a dollar a gallon here supposedly due to the ‘sanctions’ on importing Russian oil. But then I recently read that the US is the number one oil producer in the world (adding in all the fracking wells everywhere I guess) so my question is why does the US need to import oil from anywhere? Much less from Russia or the Saudis who financed the World Trade Center attack. So why is the US exporting oil only to buy it from somebody else and import it? Ah, the subtleties of profit!
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The link was more not-fun reality. Seems to be a lot of that lately. And in 2 hours the mask mandates end in Washington State as Omicron’s baby, the new strain BA.2, spreads out like a gasoline fire in Asian and Europe. 61,000 died in the US in February but let’s get back to ‘normal’ so the wealthy can keep making money off of our labor as the elites threaten nuclear war over Ukraine. Collapse, baby, comes in many different shades of ugly.
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[…] and extinction crises and the contemporaneous issue of the re-rise of fascism and subsequent collapse. Not having a refinery means we’d suffer societal collapse in a matter of weeks of a blockade […]
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Excellent analysis from Jordan Perry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ij0mXfEvGFk
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Had to load it from youtube as the link says unavailable.
I’m 20 minutes in and I am aware of everything I’ve heard. These explanations seem more for people who just don’t get it. Or haven’t really accepted down in their guts that this is flat-out going to end and pretty goddamned soon.
The reality is that we cannot ‘go out into the world and find food, and the invasive species that overruns the native ones make it even harder for the very few who can, is quite obvious. Who has the skills to even know that is edible beyond a few obvious ones.
The fact that farming/ability to store food is what helped us get to this point in the destruction of the ecosystem that gave us life due to creating massive overpopulation that is quikly consuming the last of the resources so that even he admits we can’t change spit.
Big sigh. So I’m doing what I can on this little piece of ridgeline. That’s all I can do. I even let loose Chinese Knapweed flying weevils in 2008, a biocontrol instead of using fucking herbicides. This property hasn’t had anything sprayed over it since I’ve lived here. I will, as David B suggested, just enjoy what little wild life is still left while it is still alive because there will be a time when it won’t be…along with this body I inhabit.
50% of U.S. Lakes and Rivers Are Too Polluted for Swimming, Fishing, Drinking
https://www.ecowatch.com/us-lakes-and-rivers-polluted.html
Fifty years ago, the U.S. passed the Clean Water Act with the goal of ensuring “fishable, swimmable” water across the U.S. by 1983.
Now, a new report from the Environmental Integrity Project (EIP) finds the country has fallen far short of that goal. In fact, about half of the nation’s lakes and rivers are too polluted for swimming, fishing or drinking.
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More reality:
99% of Humans Breathe Unhealthy Air, Latest WHO Data Shows
https://www.ecowatch.com/global-air-pollution-who.html
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The Ocean Is Having Trouble Breathing
A drop in oxygen levels is putting ocean ecosystems on life support.
https://nautil.us/the-ocean-is-having-trouble-breathing-15789/
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I just can’t find any good news anywhere.
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Watching this tonight. Interesting that New Zealand should expect this “much much sooner than anyone thought” excepting of course those scientists they have refused to even acknowledge. And I love this next part: “and that’s IF we stick to the Paris Agreement.”
Which NOBODY on the planet is doing. WTF? Your news faces are just as fucking ignorant as ours are, Kevin! Just in the first two minutes of this 7 minute vid…
Significant sea level rise on its way for NZ much sooner than first thought – scientists | Newshub
Then the next 10 second “I’ve been a climate scientist for 20 years and I thought we had more time…”
I’m not sure I’m going to bother watching the next five minutes because, I’m sorry to say, I think I have read science that is far more accurate.
And just before this was a weather reporter talking about what to expect in the next couple of months because winter in NZ isn’t going to happen like anyone expects:
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It ain’t just India is it, Kev?
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I am definitely not seeing the usual number of bugs so far this year. It was 78’F yesterday and the air was mostly empty. Not many robins left as they can’t find any worms and bugs in the ground that was baked hard in last summer’s ‘heat dome.’ This is spooky.
UK Survey Finds ‘Terrifying’ 60% Plunge in Flying Insect Population
“We cannot put off action any longer, for the health and well-being of future generations this demands a political and societal response. It is essential that we halt biodiversity decline now.”
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/05/uk-survey-finds-terrifying-60-plunge-flying-insect-population
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Today I woke up to heavy rain and on & off the rest of the day. Right now, 3am, the sky is washed so clear that the starfields above my head are literally twinkling so bright that I can see…until I look down at the ground.
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We just had a Derecho AND a Habob at the same time rip through Iowa and South Dakota six days ago. Think the farmers are having a good time this year in their fields? Windstorms have been hitting, too, Cat. 2 hurricane speeds (one clocked at 105mph) tearing things up not counting the tornadoes this year. Gi-freaking-gantic Wall Clouds that are spanning the country from Texas to Michigan spinning off all sorts of weird weather day after day after week after month. I am still shaking my head at the EF-5 that totally destroyed Mayfield KY in December. That just doesn’t happen…or it didn’t used to is probably more accurate.
That hurricane was still in the Gulf of Mexico last I looked and that was shocking the weather folks. Nobody expected it to last this long.
5/12/2022 Sioux Falls Derecho in real time
Right now I have two friends driving through Colorado and South Dakota to drop south into Missouri with his 30 foot trailer to pick up most of a ‘Lincoln Log’ put-together home that they could afford. He’s been calling for updates of what I’m seeing on the satellite and radar maps. He’s literally between two fronts right now, one ahead of him and one following!
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The lower Selkirk Range weather:
Air full of debris as the frosty morning turned into a rainy noon to a sunshine afternoon to more rain from very large dark cloud masses that also dropped some hail (quickly melted). Then about 3pm the wind gusts came howling in to bend the 100 foot trees to near where a couple broke two weeks ago. High today was maybe 17C at its warmest.
Now it is nearing dark, the sky has dust haze from what blew in from the flats and Scablands between here and the Cascades to the west. Not quite gritty in the eyes but close…
Another night below freezing predicted. Did see weather for NZ and there was a storm either about to hit or hitting you a day or two ago.
May we live in interesting times, eh?
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UN Warns of ‘Total Societal Collapse’
Due to Breaching of Planetary Boundaries
Nafeez Ahmed
26 May 2022
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So here is another Mann-like climate scientist but using the ‘protect the kids’ argument/dog whistle. Go ahead, have plenty of kids because the world is going to be BETTER for them than it is for you. In 50 years the grandkids will be better off than we are now.
Holy Fuck! Who IS this goddamn climate professor? But then Mann is doing the same thing in his own way at another university. De Nile is a big river syndrome strikes again.
So the best strategy is to pretend everything is JUST FINE and to tell your kids that they’ll go to university (not at these ever-rising costs) because kids just like them grew up and ended Smallpox. Even had a psychologist get her view in…
And Greta Thunberg was slapped down, too. Kids shouldn’t bother their little heads with anything but…celebrity scandals on twitter and school dances, eh?
One link in this article (tab ‘As many climate scientists have been telling us’) goes directly to twitter and the general consensus is calling this rosy scenario total bullshit. I’m not the only one that was gobsmacked by this hopium article. But maybe it’ll make her as famous a personality as Mann? Could be lucritive, yes?
Stop telling kids that climate change will destroy their world
Some “climate anxiety” is the product of telling kids — falsely — that they have no future.
https://www.vox.com/23158406/climate-change-tell-kids-wont-destroy-world
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Just shaking my head in bafflement.
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Added here Seal many thanks for your contributions to this websites information;
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“And the unraveling could begin as early 2024.”
An otherwise good article undermined by the authors misunderstanding of how collapses unfold.
Collapse isn’t an event, it’s an unfolding process. I’d say the USA has been collapsing for decades, only because it has the most ruthless military outside of occupied Palestine has it been able to stave off collapse with robbing and looting countries like Iraq, Syria, stealing Russia and Venezuela’s overseas bank deposits etc.
https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/06/08/is-americas-collapse-imminent/
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I might add the quote from Albert Bartlett “The Greatest Shortcoming of the Human Race is our inability to truly understand the exponential function”.
https://problemspredicamentsandtechnology.blogspot.com/2022/06/collapse-and-exponential-function.html?fbclid=IwAR2g31GAH0vd1pZg1XyksxEwNciEWvb-WI4kM09z7K3-EfpMMjw2CYKR0vM
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These two…yeah, well, not good news for the Thwaites Glacier at all. Will I live to see the oceans rise from this I wonder? It certainly seems to be on the horizon, doesn’t it? Both saying the same thing…
Polar Scientist Explains Peril of Thwaites
https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/06/10/polar-scientist-explains-peril-of-thwaites/
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Assault From Below: Why Antarctica’s Riskiest Glacier is Losing Its Grip
https://theconversation.com/ice-world-antarcticas-riskiest-glacier-is-under-assault-from-below-and-losing-its-grip
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Then Hayhoe comes out with this. Just from the ‘tone’ of the article it really seems that she thinks that it will continue to be ‘business as usual’ and she doesn’t really have much hopium going at the moment.
We cannot adapt our way out of climate crisis, warns leading scientist
Katharine Hayhoe says the world is heading for dangers people have not seen in 10,000
years of civilisation
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/jun/01/we-cannot-adapt-our-way-out-of-climate-crisis-warns-leading-scientist
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This is what just happened slightly to the east of me. Yellowstone is closed!
Climate Chaos Arrives in Yellowstone
https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/06/23/climate-chaos-arrives-in-yellowstone/
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Starting to get pretty damned real, eh? In your face real especially for those that are…were…planning on their summer vacation in the ‘Great Outdoors.’ I know people over there that have freaked, one lives in Gardiner Montana that got hit really hard. Climate will do to the weather what has been predicted by the ‘Alarmists’ and there isn’t going to be any ‘mitigation’ that will be effective as I posted above (Hayhoe’s words).
We are SO fucked we really can’t imagine how existential that truly is.
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This is an absolutely brilliant analysis of our predicament
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“This is the brutal reality of social collapse. This is what I tried to warn you of. Now maybe you finally, finally understand why I warned of it for so long.”
View at Medium.com
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I keep hitting paywalls with the NY Times. Which has always been a pretty heavy hitter for Empire and War most of the time. Another mouthpiece for the owners and militarists…
So far no fires but 5 out of the last 8 days have seen rain so everything is pretty dang wet still.
Last year I was in EVAC Level 2 three times, and almost four before the Ford/Corkscrew Fire turned east on the ridge before it got this far north. Far fewer fires this year.
It isn’t going to last of course. This is just an anomaly, a hiccup, in the onslaught I face in these mountains. Luck always runs out…
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“Climate change is already doing immense damage, and it’s probably only a matter of time before we experience huge catastrophes that take thousands of lives.”
Haha, even Paul Krugman has joined the party;
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“It’s entirely possible that doomsayers of the world, though widely ridiculed, could be on target about the prospects for global societal collapse.”
Noam Chomsky and the United Nations Warn of Collapse – CounterPunch.org https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/07/08/noam-chomsky-and-the-united-nations-warn-of-collapse/
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“But societies that are riven by internal social dynamics of any sort – which could be wealth differences, racial disparities or other divisions – are fragile because of those factors.”
They thought collapse couldn’t happen.
https://www.sciencealert.com/serial-collapses-of-ancient-pueblo-societies-offer-a-stark-warning-for-today-s-world?fbclid=IwAR2UJcg1LRlkEHvqA3Rj-VR_wrpsZaOsKrmoykHyjLO4BfV4cJC04XzUUHQ
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The latest from Joseph Tainter via Nate Hagens;
https://www.thegreatsimplification.com/episode/27-joe-tainter?fbclid=IwAR0NbUuHSafUsUxbBh4W9XHNduk_iTuuYidUqzKj26kk1qat9iAy8rpsGvk
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Judge for yourself;
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[…] the point of no return. Every additional gram of carbon released speeds up the already unfolding collapse now dominated and driven by a multitude of feedback loops documented here. Climate Change […]
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I first became intrigued with civilisational collapse when I visited Mayan ruins in Mexico and Guatemala. Tikal, Palenque and Tulum. I visited some of these monuments in Burma, now known as Myanmar.
A commonality in the collapses was climate change triggered by deforestation, over population, pathologically insane leaders disconnected from reality, military overreach and complexity.
Ring any bells folks?
Collapse isn’t an event, it’s a process, a process that is clearly underway.
Paul Cooper is doing brilliant work in this field.
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Continuing to speak truth to power is a no-no. Hence this from Hunziker:
The Foreboding Hyperthreat Looms Large
https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/11/25/the-foreboding-hyperthreat-looms-large/
Elizabeth G. Boulton, PhD, Australian National University and MA/Climate Policy, University of Melbourne is a former army major in the Australian Defence Force…Over time, someone somewhere decided Boulton went too far. Thereafter, her tome has been the subject of cold shoulder treatment amongst sources and venues that usually post or publish such work.
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Don’t really have the money for books right now but this is one that goes on my list…
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Here’s another I just watched. 14 minutes discussing AMOC collapse. 10 meters of sea level rise is already baked in:
What Will Earth Look Like When These 6 Tipping Points Hit?
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Of course there is always the ‘there’s still time’ that is always dangled…
Don’t know anything about this scientist…
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The latest from Steve Bull, on point as always
https://stevebull-4168.medium.com/todays-contemplation-collapse-cometh-lxxxi-5ad449dbd700
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More brilliance from Erik
https://problemspredicamentsandtechnology.blogspot.com/2022/12/what-exactly-is-collapse.html
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I will have to delve deeper into Graham Hancock’s work
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The incomparable Donella Meadows from 1977
We were warned
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Gail’s latest is a must read
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Peter Gleick, Pacific Institute. Start at 6:59, about 20 seconds long.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/parts-california-drying-massive-storms-rains-coming-soon-rcna65305
Who is this guy and who is he kidding? Everybody move off the coast? Everybody abandon flood zones? Somehow I’m sure there won’t be any damn volunteers! At some point just refugees fleeing, and we certainly are expecting that to turn into human flood all over the planet. But of course the gov will help, yes? Since the politicians are SO KIND to the US military I’m sure they are SO CONCERNED with climate devastation that they’ll be GLAD to help the rest of us….
And the ‘need to RE-Design flood insurance policies’ was…REALLY? Did he just say only insure people that AREN’T in danger of flooding and everybody else just leave, go somewhere else without actually stating that thought? How does that work again?
I almost spit my tea out on the keyboard which definitely wouldn’t have been good for it…
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Mandatory evac’s for different areas in and around the tiny town of Ft. Bragg, NorCal where my younger brother lives in an RV due to the unaffordability of the ridiculous US rents. And he works full-time. I haven’t talked with him since 2:30am when the 6.4 quake hit. Which was weird in itself as I have never been on the phone when a large quake hit who I was talking to. But now the area is being drowned by one after another Pineapple Express storms.
Selkirk Range weather:
Freaking raining again, all day. Some snow yesterday but not much then back to rain and of course it melted off very quick. Then it stopped & started and got heavier after dark. A 5″ thick slab of ice 15 feet wide and sticking two feet out hanging off this upstairs office roof this morning. It was 1 foot yesterday… Nothing I can do as I’m not going to stand under it trying to break it off nor lean the ladder against the slab edge to climb up then stand on the slab trying to break it off…and fall off the roof with it if the entire roof lets go.
It broke off to slam down on the tool room roof below the window this afternoon. I was writing an email when it happened. No idea how much weight it was but it definitely shook everything up and probably did some damage to the new metal roofing I put up a few years ago.
Above freezing temps all day and the icy snowpack has a sheet of water on it. 2nd week of January and…this ain’t normal.
But then we never thought it would be, did we? Collapse is so messy and will get more terrifying the farther we drop off the cliff.
This isn’t fun anymore. It never was going to be. So can we switch channels now? Oh wait, all I have to do is follow Gleick’s advice and move. Somewhere. There must be a place that is safe from the destabilizing climate disasters that are going to continue to increase in number and damage. As long as I have lots and lots of money.
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This is shear brilliance from Steve Bull, I highly recommend subscribing to his blog.
https://stevebull-4168.medium.com/todays-contemplation-collapse-cometh-c-cbe97434f39c
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It looks like I’m about to get slammed again next week. Trying to prepare for serious cold again after weeks of above 0’C (it was 45’F yesterday again). Stock the firewood in the house, that’s for sure! Some crazy shit going on in the Arctic, Kev.
Major Warming Disrupts Polar Vortex: Cold West, 6 Weeks of Extreme WX for U.S. Ahead
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/2/17/2153541/-Major-Warming-Disrupts-Polar-Vortex-Cold-West-6-Weeks-of-Extreme-WX-for-U-S-Ahead
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I had to take this vid in three parts. Some of his concepts I agree with, others are pie-in-the-sky thinking especially near the end of it.
Does this guy even personally know and interact with local farmers and ranchers? Especially of the right wing/neoliberal variety that fills the US rural areas that are completely controlled by the MAGA GOP insurrectionists that pulled the Jan 6 2021 coup d’etat? Maybe in his country the rural farmers aren’t crazies wanting to use their numerous guns on people but that ain’t true in this country because I DO know and interact in this county that doesn’t even have a so-called ‘opposition party’ that puts up candidates for office. They are ALL Republicans running against one another for office each trying to out-Trump the other and show what a fucking violent Christian nutcase they are.
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And then there was this call for the War on Doomerism:
https://www.vox.com/the-highlight/23632673/against-doomerism
But of course this stupid shit continues:
(from counterpunch roaming charges 7April2023):
+ Don’t be a climate doomsayer, we’re admonished. You’ll scare the children. Okay, okay. We’ll try to be more upbeat. Look for the bright side. Emphasize the positive developments, such as they are. Then you read that globally new oil and gas projects either approved in 2022 or slated to be approved between 2023 and 2025 “could cause 70 gigatons of carbon dioxide emissions,” an amount that is more than 30 times the United States’ total carbon dioxide emissions in 2021.
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I suggest readers should pop in and read today’s ‘Roaming Charges’ because it’s just full of reality tidbits to chew on. Like rabbit turds:
https://www.counterpunch.org/2023/04/07/roaming-charges-87/
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Sure has been a lot of tornadoes ripping through the US slave states this year, eh?
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Courtesy of Joe Black!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLA7a-ptJGU
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Oh yeah, this is freaking hilarious. This actually should be under The Rapture posting as it is absolutely a religion.
Yep, primary necessity of life is money because without enough of it you cannot eat, drink, sleep under a roof. Keeps the wealth in their mansions with servants/slaves dependent on paychecks, yes?
And I thoroughly agree with the subtle premise underlying this vid that it is going to kill our species off.
One way or another.
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More madness:
Why would anybody build the ‘Climate Exchange University’ on a low-lying island next to New York City? My search engine Duck Duck Go says the highest point is supposedly 70 feet above seal level, but if you look at the pictures I’m guessing maybe 10 feet.
Are they fucking stupid? Well, yeah, they are.
https://weather.com/news/climate/video/governors-island-to-become-climate-campus
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And then there is this shit the wealthy are building all around the world proving that money does not make intelligent people smart.
https://hakaimagazine.com/news/cities-are-rapidly-reclaiming-land-at-risk-of-extreme-sea-level-rise/
I mean, WTF are they thinking?
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Ordered the Oldevai trilogy PDF version tonight. Got an email from Steve Bull in reply to a question I sent about payment, ended up ordering directly from him no Amazon which I’m grateful to not have to do! Hate Bezos… He’s trying to be…hopeful even as he writes reality but then he has teenage daughter(s). He’s right, we don’t know exactly what the future will do. Maybe we’ll have one of those UFOs from a civilization a million years old that’s gotten through this bottleneck decide to give our species a hand to fix all this shit. Ya never know And I’m being a kind of old surfer dude grandpa to a 4 yr old who has zero men in her life so I know how he’s feeling in a minor way. The joy Ara throws at being alive is…contagious in some ways.
But in the back of my mind is not fooling myself. Big sigh.
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Nine days ago it was snowing on the property. Today was 27C. Next week is expecting to be just as warm. My body isn’t ready for this, and the apple tree is still leafless. No bees yet, no flowers, no hummingbirds. This is freaky, dude!
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Great that you got InTouch with Steve Bull, he’s a deep thinker.
Good luck with the weather whiplsh mate
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[…] thought of or we simply ignore. This muddying of the waters will only get worse as we circle the drain of collapse.In this article I’ll give some examples and some tools to drill down into the quagmire, that […]
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“The report by Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Violence Solutions finds that 48,830 people died due to firearm-related causes in 2021, the highest number on record. This is just over 3,600 more gun deaths than in 2020, and works out to one gun death every 11 minutes.”
That’s a 7% increase since 2021.
Clearly the collapse of the US society is accelerating.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/06/christopher-luxon-calls-new-zealand-very-negative-wet-whiney-inward-looking.html?ref=ves-nextauto
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Collapse is not a dirty word
To assume our continued destruction of the planet’s life-supporting systems could lead to any other outcome than collapse is irrational. But, as writes Catherine Knight, the prospect of a ‘great unravelling’ does present an opportunity.
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/collapse-is-not-a-dirty-word?fbclid=IwAR07JYyfaJzXvzSyr0gHp0B08P84nZHkan1nKaggJEQVERWu7iE6MA4og9w
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[…] Will the latest El Niño Southern Oscillation be the death knell for: The Largest Living Organism on Earth.?The Great Barrier Reef has yet to recover from the 2016 El Niño. It takes a coral reef approximately 15 years to recover from a significant ‘Bleaching Event”, clearly, there will be no respite for an already ailing complex organism. That’s all happening, before Japan takes the cheapest option and dumps millions of gallons of radioactive sludge, being described as filtered water, into my beloved Pacific Ocean.Here’s a question for informed readers. Could the sludge have been injected into a depleted oil well, rather than be simply dumped into the adjacent ocean? I’d love to know if that was a possibility, not considered, due to the cost!Brace for grief, our own and more importantly, that of our youth, as day by day the realisation that they have next to no future, will trigger what I have previously described as: The Coming Tsunami of Grief.I refuse to be the last generation of elders, lying to the last generation of youth. The Kids Are Not Alright: How Young People are Dealing with Climate Anxiety A seminal event like the collapse of the GBR would shake this set of living arrangements to the core, then there will be another similar event, rinse and repeat. A perfect example is the collapse of the Emperor Penguin colonies in Antarctica.Capitalism and Industrial Civilisation is a “Confidence Game”. Losing something this significant or a city or region of people to Wet Bulb Extremes, will undermine all confidence in the future and this civilisation will unravel rapidly. Collapse: The Only Realistic Scenario […]
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My time frame is no more than two more melt seasons in the Arctic. Frankly, every day this set of living arrangements holds together I am pleasantly surprised.
https://wraltechwire.com/2023/09/22/doomsday-authors-analysis-we-have-destroyed-our-ecosystem-now-we-await-the-collapse-of-civilization/
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His #11 is war, and he talks on the current Western Asia conflagration. None of the missiles fired by Hamas are anywhere near this big, all have been ‘contact’ bombs not aerial burst like this one was and probably a US-supplied ADAM 2000 pound one. Plus none fired by Hamas have gone in that direction, only Israeli ones aim that way. Like the USS Liberty and so many other ‘attacks’ blamed on everybody but Israel over the years that were proven later that they were Zionist attacks. This hospital was a Nuttyahoo attack.
And interestingly enough, none of the Euro Jews left after the Fascists in WWII and those that escaped. These Zionists are NOT genetically related to the Hebrews that lived in Palestine 2000 yrs ago, and are Jewish by joining the cult.
https://popularresistance.org/zionism-an-ideology-for-the-self-loathing/
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https://hartmannreport.com/p/citizens-united-has-destroyed-america-0d3?publication_id=302288&post_id=138320821&isFreemail=true&r=218fss
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This vid discounted climate but at 57minutes he finally says that it’s true but until recently scientists thought we ‘had more time.’ Well, some of them still do, eh Kevin? (thinking of Mann & other MSM mouthpieces)
And holy shit Acapulco was just smashed by the freak Chibasco/Hurricane Otis. But the storms don’t kill nearly the numbers to make a real impact, do they? Hunger & disease, now those are the real killers. So far.
This is so exciting to experience, isn’t it? Other than the horror and death it could be an amusement park ride…
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More brilliance from Alan Urban
https://collapsemusings.substack.com/p/reasons-civilization-will-collapse?fbclid=IwAR03KLfuetgdA0N9rA-I5WgYLmO4PpwGSPgtm3yeFaoURbVPtsP3ZTe-LUM
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This pertains to the mainland US but it really seems that is could be a blueprint for everybody. What I dislike is the constant use of the term ‘climate change’ which just dilutes the impact of what the rest of the article is talking about. Bluntly, fuck this ‘change’ shit because that really isn’t what’s happening and certainly what the far-reaching consequences for humans enmeshed in this article. Everything living is being slammed so a much more emotion-laden description is warranted.
But then that wasn’t what Wbush’s PR guy invented the term to do, and the gooey covering it portrays does a wonderful job of smoothing over what one reads all around those two words.
I have to fight my OWN mind on that, and I can’t imagine how many people just suck it in without thought. It’s the TV-watching mind, the one that doesn’t think about everything it sees. It feels like the phrase is oatmeal poured on to the disastrous premise of the article to cover reality, keep people from reacting in horror…which in all honesty they SHOULD be feeling, ya know? I guess it’s better that people are asleep/numb to all this because I don’t think they’ll handle it well if they were awake and cognizant… Not looking forward to when they do, either.
US Regions Will Suffer a Stunning Variety of Climate-Caused Disasters, Report Finds
Extreme temperatures; worsening wildfires, hurricanes and floods; infrastructure problems; agricultural impacts: The way you experience climate change will depend on where you live.
https://insideclimatenews.org/news/16112023/fifth-national-climate-assessment-regional-impacts/
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It’s refreshing to hear another take on the unfolding collapse.
Daily Dystopia: 17 Signs (collapse2050.com)
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“When do we know that a civilization is on the verge of collapse? In his now almost 20-year-old classic, Diamond identified three key indicators or precursors of imminent dissolution: a persistent pattern of environmental change for the worse like long-lasting droughts; signs that existing modes of agriculture or industrial production were aggravating the crisis; and an elite failure to abandon harmful practices and adopt new means of production. At some point, a critical threshold is crossed and collapse invariably follows.
https://guymcpherson.substack.com/p/first-signs-of-civilizations-collapse
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The writing so to speak is on the wall!
https://charleshughsmith.substack.com/p/rome-was-eternal-until-it-wasnt-imperial?r=1uz4iu&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&fbclid=IwAR20JUblgTeHSx6hLfp6H5ezhIyCV7V5keIiZKXnM8XInAgtt8NS6WoIiDk
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Another well crafter blog on the ongoing collapse!
https://lastweekincollapse.substack.com/p/last-year-in-collapse-environment-ecf?utm_medium=reader2&fbclid=IwAR2F8kOPB0UA74PQ5ApgfdcnY94IbqNcHIQiE_xebq1jTSWDisG6VH4himU
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Ray Huang’s summary of the Ming Dynasty is the knockout blow embedded in this tragically on point article from Charles.
If you can’t see the clock winding down on the most complex civilisation in history you’re watching, reading way too much corporate propaganda.
They have share prices to protect, as Rome burns!
https://charleshughsmith.substack.com/p/the-status-quo-has-already-failed?r=1uz4iu&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&fbclid=IwAR2YBpyb-vqbMVKG5o2UA_tN5LU7J2-Az-4kjyA6XuoS0GvW46sjFX0QJRc
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Clearly our owners have decided it’s Business as Usual until the unfolding collapse pans out.
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